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   % wrote:   
   > jojo wrote:   
   >> % wrote:   
   >>> jojo wrote:   
   >>>> 🌈ðŸ’�🌻🌺🌹🌻ðŸ’�🌷🌺🌈 Jen 🌈ðŸ’�🌻🠠 
   ºðŸŒ¹ðŸŒ»ðŸ’�🌷🌺🌈 D ershmenderde   
   >>>> nden...den-den *jazz hands* ðŸ’�🌻🌺🌹🌻ðŸ’�🌷🌠  
   ðŸ�¶ç¬›ðŸŒˆðŸ’�🌻🌺🌹🌻   
   >>>> ðŸ’� 🌷🌺🌈 wrote:   
   >>>>> Yes, ICE arrests at churches happen, especially since the   
   >>>>> Trump-Vance administration   
   >>>>> ended prior federal restrictions on enforcement at sensitive   
   >>>>> locations, allowing   
   >>>>> agents to enter public church areas (like lobbies, parking   
   >>>>> lots) with probable cause   
   >>>>> but needing warrants for private spaces, leading to   
   >>>>> increased controversy, lawsuits   
   >>>>> by religious groups, and community fear, with some pastors   
   >>>>> and activists pushing back   
   >>>>> against these actions as violations of religious freedom and   
   >>>>> due process.   
   >>>>> Why ICE Actions at Churches Have Increased   
   >>>>> Policy Shift: For years, there was a policy limiting   
   >>>>> immigration enforcement at   
   >>>>> places of worship, but this was reversed, granting ICE more   
   >>>>> discretion.   
   >>>>> "Public" vs. "Private" Areas: ICE can conduct arrests in   
   >>>>> public church areas (parking   
   >>>>> lots, entryways) without a warrant if they have probable   
   >>>>> cause, but judicial warrants   
   >>>>> are needed for private spaces (offices, confessionals).   
   >>>>> Examples & Controversies   
   >>>>> Lawsuits: Numerous denominations (Lutheran, Baptist, Quaker)   
   >>>>> sued the administration   
   >>>>> over these policy changes, citing arrests in parking lots   
   >>>>> and near preschools.   
   >>>>> Protests: Activists have disrupted services and protested at   
   >>>>> churches where officials   
   >>>>> involved in immigration enforcement are members, leading to   
   >>>>> DOJ investigations into   
   >>>>> potential civil rights violations.   
   >>>>> Community Fear: These actions cause anxiety among immigrant   
   >>>>> communities, with   
   >>>>> churches holding "Know Your Rights" sessions to help   
   >>>>> parishioners.   
   >>>>> What to Do If Stopped by ICE at a Church   
   >>>>> Know Your Rights: You can remain silent and don't have to   
   >>>>> sign anything.   
   >>>>> Demand a Warrant: Ask to see a judicial warrant before   
   >>>>> allowing entry into private   
   >>>>> areas.   
   >>>>> Contact a Lawyer: State clearly, "I want to speak to a lawyer".   
   >>>>> In essence, while houses of worship are considered sensitive   
   >>>>> locations, federal law   
   >>>>> allows for enforcement in public areas, leading to ongoing   
   >>>>> legal challenges and   
   >>>>> community tensions.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> i'm telling you, ice needs a proper uniform, it needs   
   >>>> piccasso crown.   
   >>>>   
   >>> shorts and beanies   
   >>   
   >> i was thinking more along..... like hoodies and sweat pants. as   
   >> a super fashion desginer... their statement would be like.. i   
   >> am too cool to bother with formality.   
   >>   
   >> piccasso crown will charge.... hmmm 450 for the hoodie pants   
   >> combo per iceicle. its super value for money.   
   >>   
   > kilts and tams   
      
   hmm problem is if they have to climb a fence or roof or ladder.   
      
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