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   >>> jojo wrote:   
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   >>>>> jojo wrote:   
   >>>>>> 🌈ðŸ’�🌻🌺🌹🌻ðŸ’�🌷🌺🌈 Jen 🌈ðŸ’�🌻   
   ŸŒºðŸŒ¹ðŸŒ»ðŸ’�🌷🌺🌈 D   
   >>>>>> ershmenderde nden...den-den *jazz hands* ðŸ’�🌻🌺🌹   
   ŸŒ»ðŸ’�🌷🌺ðŸ�¶   
   >>>>>> 笛🌈ðŸ’�🌻🌺🌹🌻 ðŸ’� 🌷🌺🌈 wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Yes, ICE arrests at churches happen, especially since the   
   >>>>>>> Trump-Vance administration   
   >>>>>>> ended prior federal restrictions on enforcement at   
   >>>>>>> sensitive locations, allowing   
   >>>>>>> agents to enter public church areas (like lobbies, parking   
   >>>>>>> lots) with probable cause   
   >>>>>>> but needing warrants for private spaces, leading to   
   >>>>>>> increased controversy, lawsuits   
   >>>>>>> by religious groups, and community fear, with some pastors   
   >>>>>>> and activists pushing back   
   >>>>>>> against these actions as violations of religious freedom   
   >>>>>>> and due process.   
   >>>>>>> Why ICE Actions at Churches Have Increased   
   >>>>>>> Policy Shift: For years, there was a policy limiting   
   >>>>>>> immigration enforcement at   
   >>>>>>> places of worship, but this was reversed, granting ICE   
   >>>>>>> more discretion.   
   >>>>>>> "Public" vs. "Private" Areas: ICE can conduct arrests in   
   >>>>>>> public church areas (parking   
   >>>>>>> lots, entryways) without a warrant if they have probable   
   >>>>>>> cause, but judicial warrants   
   >>>>>>> are needed for private spaces (offices, confessionals).   
   >>>>>>> Examples & Controversies   
   >>>>>>> Lawsuits: Numerous denominations (Lutheran, Baptist,   
   >>>>>>> Quaker) sued the administration   
   >>>>>>> over these policy changes, citing arrests in parking lots   
   >>>>>>> and near preschools.   
   >>>>>>> Protests: Activists have disrupted services and protested   
   >>>>>>> at churches where officials   
   >>>>>>> involved in immigration enforcement are members, leading   
   >>>>>>> to DOJ investigations into   
   >>>>>>> potential civil rights violations.   
   >>>>>>> Community Fear: These actions cause anxiety among   
   >>>>>>> immigrant communities, with   
   >>>>>>> churches holding "Know Your Rights" sessions to help   
   >>>>>>> parishioners.   
   >>>>>>> What to Do If Stopped by ICE at a Church   
   >>>>>>> Know Your Rights: You can remain silent and don't have to   
   >>>>>>> sign anything.   
   >>>>>>> Demand a Warrant: Ask to see a judicial warrant before   
   >>>>>>> allowing entry into private   
   >>>>>>> areas.   
   >>>>>>> Contact a Lawyer: State clearly, "I want to speak to a   
   >>>>>>> lawyer".   
   >>>>>>> In essence, while houses of worship are considered   
   >>>>>>> sensitive locations, federal law   
   >>>>>>> allows for enforcement in public areas, leading to ongoing   
   >>>>>>> legal challenges and   
   >>>>>>> community tensions.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> i'm telling you, ice needs a proper uniform, it needs   
   >>>>>> piccasso crown.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> shorts and beanies   
   >>>>   
   >>>> i was thinking more along..... like hoodies and sweat pants.   
   >>>> as a super fashion desginer... their statement would be   
   >>>> like.. i am too cool to bother with formality.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> piccasso crown will charge.... hmmm 450 for the hoodie pants   
   >>>> combo per iceicle. its super value for money.   
   >>>>   
   >>> kilts and tams   
   >>   
   >> hmm problem is if they have to climb a fence or roof or ladder.   
   >>   
   > its the best way   
      
   its not fashionable.   
      
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