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   Message 166,739 of 168,055   
   phoenix to jojo   
   Re: ????"storming chruches"???? (1/3)   
   24 Jan 26 17:01:49   
   
   XPost: alt.usenet.kooks, alt.transgendered, alt.flame   
   XPost: alt.slack   
   From: j63840576@gmail.com   
      
   jojo wrote:   
   > phoenix wrote:   
   >> jojo wrote:   
   >>> phoenix wrote:   
   >>>> jojo wrote:   
   >>>>> phoenix wrote:   
   >>>>>> jojo wrote:   
   >>>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 19:17:37 +0000, jojo  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 09:20:46 -0700, %    
   >>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 07:37:54 -0700, %    
   >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 06:03:14 -0700, %   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 18:17:26 -0700, %   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 19:48:45 +0000, "Doc Hammerslack"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At Thu, 22 Jan 2026 19:42:13 +0000, KKKernal Corn   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 17:31:02 +0000,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ??????????Jen??????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dershmenderdenden...den-den *jazz   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hands*????????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 17:18:51 +0000, LO AND BEHOLD;   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KKKernal Corn   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  determined that the following was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of great   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> importance to KKKernal Corn  and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subsequently   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decided to freely share it with us in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???? On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 09:44:22 -0600, phoenix   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote: ???? ???????? KKKernal   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corn wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????? On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 10:58:06 +0000,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ??????????Jen?????????? ????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dershmenderdenden...den-den *jazz   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hands*???????????????????? ????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? Yes, ICE arrests at churches   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen, especially since   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Trump-Vance ???????????????? administration   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ended prior federal   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restrictions on enforcement at ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive locations,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allowing agents to enter public church areas (like   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lobbies, parking lots) with probable cause but   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needing warrants for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? private spaces, leading to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> increased controversy,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lawsuits by religious ???????????????? groups, and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community fear, with   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some pastors and activists pushing ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back against these   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actions as violations of religious freedom and due   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process. Why ICE Actions at Churches Have Increased   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Policy Shift:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For ???????????????? years, there was a policy   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limiting immigration   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enforcement at places of ???????????????? worship,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but this was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reversed, granting ICE more discretion. "Public"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? vs.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Private" Areas: ICE can conduct arrests in public   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> church areas   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? (parking lots, entryways) without   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a warrant if they   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have probable ???????????????? cause, but judicial   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warrants are needed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for private spaces (offices, ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confessionals). Examples   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> & Controversies Lawsuits: Numerous ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> denominations   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Lutheran, Baptist, Quaker) sued the administration   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? these policy changes, citing   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrests in parking lots   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and near ???????????????? preschools. Protests:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Activists have   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disrupted services and protested ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at churches where   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officials involved in immigration enforcement are   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> members, leading to DOJ investigations into   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> potential civil rights   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? violations. Community Fear: These   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actions cause   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anxiety among immigrant ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communities, with churches   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holding "Know Your Rights" sessions to help   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parishioners. What to Do If Stopped by ICE at a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Church Know Your   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rights: ???????????????? You can remain silent and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have to sign   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything. Demand a ???????????????? Warrant: Ask to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see a judicial   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warrant before allowing entry into ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> private areas.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contact a Lawyer: State clearly, "I want to speak   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lawyer". In essence, while houses of worship are   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considered   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive ???????????????? locations, federal law   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allows for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enforcement in public areas, leading   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? to ongoing legal   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> challenges and community tensions. ????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't allow   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> radical agitators.protestors to enter churches to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agitate/protest, though. ???????? SO basically   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's no law against   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it yet. I guess there will be in ???????? fifteen   
      
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