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   From: j63840576@gmail.com   
      
   KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   > On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 16:17:25 -0700, %  wrote:   
   >   
   >> KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   >>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 11:54:25 -0700, %  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   >>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 09:21:33 -0700, %  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 07:36:00 -0700, %  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 18:16:33 -0700, %  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Doc Hammerslack wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> At Thu, 22 Jan 2026 19:42:13 +0000, KKKernal Corn    
   >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 17:31:02 +0000, ??????????Jen??????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Dershmenderdenden...den-den *jazz hands*????????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 17:18:51 +0000, LO AND BEHOLD; KKKernal Corn   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>  determined that the following was of great   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> importance to KKKernal Corn  and subsequently   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> decided to freely share it with us in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> :   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> ???? On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 09:44:22 -0600, phoenix   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote: ???? ???????? KKKernal Corn wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????? On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 10:58:06 +0000,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> ??????????Jen?????????? ???????????? Dershmenderdenden...den-den   
   *jazz   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> hands*???????????????????? ????????????  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? Yes, ICE arrests at churches happen, especially   
   since   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Trump-Vance ???????????????? administration ended prior   
   federal   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> restrictions on enforcement at ???????????????? sensitive   
   locations,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> allowing agents to enter public church areas (like   
   ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> lobbies, parking lots) with probable cause but needing warrants   
   for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? private spaces, leading to increased   
   controversy,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> lawsuits by religious ???????????????? groups, and community   
   fear, with   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> some pastors and activists pushing ???????????????? back against   
   these   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> actions as violations of religious freedom and due   
   ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> process. Why ICE Actions at Churches Have Increased Policy Shift:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> For ???????????????? years, there was a policy limiting   
   immigration   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> enforcement at places of ???????????????? worship, but this was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> reversed, granting ICE more discretion. "Public" ?   
   ?????????????? vs.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Private" Areas: ICE can conduct arrests in public church areas   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? (parking lots, entryways) without a warrant if   
   they   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> have probable ???????????????? cause, but judicial warrants are   
   needed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> for private spaces (offices, ???????????????? confessionals).   
   Examples   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> & Controversies Lawsuits: Numerous ???????????????? denominations   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Lutheran, Baptist, Quaker) sued the administration over   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? these policy changes, citing arrests in parking   
   lots   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> and near ???????????????? preschools. Protests: Activists have   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> disrupted services and protested ???????????????? at churches   
   where   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> officials involved in immigration enforcement are    
   ???????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> members, leading to DOJ investigations into potential civil   
   rights   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> ???????????????? violations. Community Fear: These actions cause   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> anxiety among immigrant ???????????????? communities, with   
   churches   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> holding "Know Your Rights" sessions to help ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> parishioners. What to Do If Stopped by ICE at a Church Know Your   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rights: ???????????????? You can remain silent and don't have to   
   sign   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything. Demand a ???????????????? Warrant: Ask to see a   
   judicial   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> warrant before allowing entry into ???????????????? private   
   areas.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Contact a Lawyer: State clearly, "I want to speak to a   
   ????????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> lawyer". In essence, while houses of worship are considered   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive ???????????????? locations, federal law allows for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> enforcement in public areas, leading ???????????????? to ongoing   
   legal   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> challenges and community tensions. ???????????? That doesn't   
   allow   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> radical agitators.protestors to enter churches to ????????????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> agitate/protest, though. ???????? SO basically there's no law   
   against   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> it yet. I guess there will be in ???????? fifteen yrs. ???? ????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically, there is. There's the federal FACE act, in addition to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> which ???? many states have thri own. ????   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Origin: Passed after violent attacks on abortion clinics in the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1980s and 90s.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Because of right wing clinic bombers.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Christian opposition to pro-death (aka pro-choice) abortionists   
   was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> the moral high ground.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody on the left is bombing a damn thing   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Not yet.  It's only a matter of time.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> I really doubt that.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> and the protest at that church was effective and brought more   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> national attention to the lies that the "small government"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> conservatives have been promulgating for years.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> The protest at that church demonstrated the total lack of   
   morality or   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> respect for religion among the radical agitators. They don't give   
   two   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> warm jew shits about a bunch of illegal Mexes:  this is just   
   another   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> platform for Trump-bashing.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> No, I think they do care about undocumented civilians in the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> U.S. -- trouble is, they went overboard with their protest.    
   Protesting   
   >>>>>>>>>>> in a sanctuary is a bridge too far.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Federalized Stormtroopers going after US citizens and chuckling   
   and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> joking about it when they murder someone doesn't look like "small   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> government" to anyone.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Opposition to ICE is anti-government and anti-American, no matter   
   who   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> it comes from.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> I disagree.  Real Americans don't like what ICE is doing.  Just   
   look   
   >>>>>>>>>>> at the polls.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> And these people have the nerve to say they respect   
      
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