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   From: flwp@in.valid   
      
   On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 14:25:06 -0500   
   jmquown  wrote:   
      
   > Trolls need to go back to school.   
      
   AI Overview   
   ICE agents are authorized to defend themselves and others from imminent   
   threats of death or serious bodily injury, with policies allowing for   
   the use of "objectively reasonable" force. While they are trained to   
   prioritize safety and use minimum necessary force, they can employ   
   deadly force immediately if they perceive a high-level threat. Key   
   details regarding ICE agent self-defense: Use of Force Policy: Agents   
   are trained to use force when they have "reasonable grounds to believe   
   that such force is necessary". This includes using less-lethal devices   
   like pepper spray or flashbang grenades. Deadly Force: According to   
   training documents, deadly force does not have to be a last resort, and   
   agents may initiate it if they feel it is required to protect   
   themselves. Vehicle Exception: While generally prohibited from shooting   
   at moving vehicles, agents may do so if they believe the vehicle is   
   being used as a weapon to threaten deadly force. Legal Protections:   
   Agents are not granted "absolute immunity," but often have qualified   
   immunity, meaning they can face lawsuits or criminal charges if they   
   act outside the law or policy, though this is difficult to prove.   
   Resistance: Agents may use force when encountering resistance to arrest   
      
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