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   Steve wrote:   
   > John,   
   > The spindle will drop on its own freely and always rests on the   
   > lifting plate. Thats not the problem. The lifting plate/arms do not   
   > go all the way down. The springs are the originals and it did   
   > work with them in it in the past.   
   >                          Steve   
      
   If the spindle lift assembly is not going all the way down, then I would   
   start with looking for gummed up works. As I recall it is pushed down by   
   the cam system, but I am way too rusty to be certain of this assembly.   
      
   Any chance something is getting in the way of this going down properly?   
   A cable or bit of misc./ stuff?   
      
   This cam setup should at least show up in the diagrams/photos showing   
   the other adjustments. Do you have the manual?   
      
   John :-#(#   
      
   > "John Robertson"  wrote in message   
   > news:JgJZn.8906$z%6.2434@edtnps83...   
   >> Steve wrote:   
   >>> Hi Guys,   
   >>> Hate to admit it but I'm stuck (sic) and could use some advice.   
   >>> My 1650 selects a record normally, plays it but when the   
   >>> record is over the spindle only drops maybe 2/3 of the   
   >>> way down. When the record tray tries to retract it jams   
   >>> because the spindle is in the way.   
   >>>   
   >>> The spindle shaft (very long) moves freely and is not sticking.   
   >>> The arm that pushes the spindle shaft up/down is not going   
   >>> down all the way. I can force it down all the way but I'll   
   >>> be fighting spring tension to do so. This just isn't right.   
   >>>   
   >>> I have verified that all springs are in place and not broken. The   
   >>> cam follower appears to be riding in the correct track, but this   
   >>> is almost impossible to see. The cam goes through its full   
   >>> cycle if I remove the jam. Doesn't seem to be any sort of adjustment   
   >>> for this.   
   >>>   
   >>> Any suggestions???? TIA   
   >>>                           Steve   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >> The play spindle should just drop (bottom out) by its own weight. The lift   
   >> springs are to reduce the lift pressure required so the cams are not   
   >> stressed. If the spindle does not drop to the bottom on its own then you   
   >> have the wrong lift spring installed...there should not be a gap between   
   >> the bottom of the spindle shaft and the lift plate that pushes it up when   
   >> the plate is bottomed out.   
   >>   
   >> John :-#)#   
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