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Steve wrote:
> John,
> I've looked for the obvious stuff like obstructions, parts sticking, etc.
> Nada. Don't have the book for the 1650 but I do for a similar
> Wurl and the cam stuff is not shown. There are two adjustments
> for the end stops, but its never even getting close to the bottom
> stop adjustment, so thats not it.
> Steve
Ah, I'm afraid my 1600 is too buried to examine and try to help you
right now...
John :-#(#
> "John Robertson" wrote in message
> news:ANLZn.8917$z%6.254@edtnps83...
>> Steve wrote:
>>> John,
>>> The spindle will drop on its own freely and always rests on the
>>> lifting plate. Thats not the problem. The lifting plate/arms do not
>>> go all the way down. The springs are the originals and it did
>>> work with them in it in the past.
>>> Steve
>> If the spindle lift assembly is not going all the way down, then I would
>> start with looking for gummed up works. As I recall it is pushed down by
>> the cam system, but I am way too rusty to be certain of this assembly.
>>
>> Any chance something is getting in the way of this going down properly? A
>> cable or bit of misc./ stuff?
>>
>> This cam setup should at least show up in the diagrams/photos showing the
>> other adjustments. Do you have the manual?
>>
>> John :-#(#
>>
>>> "John Robertson" wrote in message
>>> news:JgJZn.8906$z%6.2434@edtnps83...
>>>> Steve wrote:
>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>> Hate to admit it but I'm stuck (sic) and could use some advice.
>>>>> My 1650 selects a record normally, plays it but when the
>>>>> record is over the spindle only drops maybe 2/3 of the
>>>>> way down. When the record tray tries to retract it jams
>>>>> because the spindle is in the way.
>>>>>
>>>>> The spindle shaft (very long) moves freely and is not sticking.
>>>>> The arm that pushes the spindle shaft up/down is not going
>>>>> down all the way. I can force it down all the way but I'll
>>>>> be fighting spring tension to do so. This just isn't right.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have verified that all springs are in place and not broken. The
>>>>> cam follower appears to be riding in the correct track, but this
>>>>> is almost impossible to see. The cam goes through its full
>>>>> cycle if I remove the jam. Doesn't seem to be any sort of adjustment
>>>>> for this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions???? TIA
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The play spindle should just drop (bottom out) by its own weight. The
>>>> lift springs are to reduce the lift pressure required so the cams are
>>>> not stressed. If the spindle does not drop to the bottom on its own then
>>>> you have the wrong lift spring installed...there should not be a gap
>>>> between the bottom of the spindle shaft and the lift plate that pushes
>>>> it up when the plate is bottomed out.
>>>>
>>>> John :-#)#
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>>>
>>
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>
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