From: dspikes@yahoo.com
On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 11:01:51 AM UTC-6, John Robertson wrote:
> On 2022/11/19 8:15 a.m., Deanie Spikes wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 9:48:36 AM UTC-6, John Robertson wrote:
> >> On 2022/11/16 5:49 a.m., Deanie Spikes wrote:
> >>> On Friday, March 5, 2004 at 6:14:08 PM UTC-6, Andy Guthrie wrote:
> >>>> Well thanks for the warning... Unfortunately, it's said and done. I
> >>>> straightened out the contact and side A is now back in the game.
> >>>> Everything is back to its original state, plus side A is working, but I
> >>>> am getting the occasional wrong selection error.
> >>>> The most common mistake seems to be it reading a 5 as a 2 (i.e.,
playing
> >>>> 126 instead of 156).
> >>>> Until I scrape together the cash for the service manuals... Any
suggestions?
> >>>> Happy Seeburg Olympian Owner wrote:
> >>>>> the strip is called a Tormat :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> i wold not remove the tormat unless you have the manual!!! the pice
that
> >>>>> scans the tormat if i remember right can be removed seperatly >>>>> manual>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jim w
> >>>>> "Andy Guthrie" wrote in message
> >>>>> news:4047a036$0$3078$61fe...@news.rcn.com...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, here's an update.
> >>>>>> I can only assume that I was mistaken about seeing side A work at the
> >>>>>> previous owners house. I pulled the front off and found that the
contact
> >>>>>> for the A side of the record (where it scans the magnetic o-rings) is
> >>>>>> bent. I am going to try to remove the strip of magnetic o-rings (gee,
> >>>>>> can you tell I'm a newbie with these terms?) and straighten out the
> >>>>>> sensor. I sure hope this works...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Andy Guthrie wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi everyone- my first post.
> >>>>>>> I have officially started my jukebox "collection" by buying a
Seeburg
> >>>>>>> STD4 "Mardi Gras" model.
> >>>>>>> Things seem to be ok, except I cannot play side "A" of the records.
All
> >>>>>>> of the side B's (the 2xx selections) work fine.
> >>>>>>> I followed Tony Miller's troubleshooting guide, and connected the
> >>>>>>> negative side of a D battery to the tormat lead, and the machine did
> >>>>>>> pick up each disc, but again, only played the B sides. The A sides
were
> >>>>>>> working when I checked out the machine prior to buying it, so I get
the
> >>>>>>> feeling that a wire may have fallen loose during the move.
> >>>>>>> When I punch in a 1xx selection, the mechanism scans twice and then
> >>>>>
> >>>>> parks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Any ideas what might cause the skipping of the 1xx selections?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> Hi, Andy! I realize that I am replying to an ancient post, but I figured
it wouldn't hurt to try. I have the same issue with the exact same jukebox.
You mentioned that you straightened out the contact for side A selections
because it was slightly
bent. Could you please explain where this contact is located? I'm not sure
where to look! Thanks, so much!
> >> Check connections in all the plugs related to the keyboard and Tormat
> >> (move outward if those are all good). You may find a damaged Molex pin,
> >> or a pin that is pushed back relative to the others so it is no longer
> >> making contact.
> >>
> >> This is not uncommon...
> >>
> >> John :-#)#
> >> --
> > John, thanks for the advice! Please forgive my ignorance, but do I need to
remove the mechanism in order to check the connections in all the plugs
related to the keyboard and Tormat and look for damaged Molex pins? When I got
the jukebox, it was not
working. Lights came on, but the mechanism was stuck all the way to the right
(when looking from the back). After researching a LOT, I felt confident enough
to remove the mechanism, which I did. I oiled the motor, and manually turned
the coupling until a
full cycle was complete. It seemed to have been stuck in the play position. I
sprayed the contacts (only the few that I saw....I'm sure I missed some) with
contact cleaner. I replaced everything, and it started scanning! I did the
battery test, and it
picked up every #2 side, but none of the #1 sides.
> >
> > Sorry for rambling, but I just wanted to explain what I had done. So, back
to my original question...do I need to remove the mechanism again in order to
check for damaged connections or pins? Stupid question #2: is the tarmat part
of the whole
mechanism that comes out? Where, exactly, is it? Thanks for tolerating my
ignorance!
> No, you shouldn't have to remove the mechanism to check the connections.
> I'm thinking checking at the control center first.
>
> As for not playing one side, do check the manual and make sure you have
> set up the Tormat Readout contacts correctly. And the the Tormat is
> aligned correctly, and that the Reversing Switch on the mechanism is
> operating correctly - that the circuit to the readout switches - if
> present - is exchanged correctly.
>
> I hope you have the manual! It should go into detail on troubleshooting
> and adjustments.
> John :-#)#
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Thank you, John. I have the manual, and have printed out several adjustment
pages. Hopefully, I'll be able to make some progress!
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