From: dspikes@yahoo.com
On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 1:31:18 PM UTC-6, John Robertson wrote:
> On 2022/12/04 2:42 p.m., Deanie Spikes wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 3:23:00 PM UTC-6, John Robertson wrote:
> >> On 2022/12/04 10:19 a.m., Deanie Spikes wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 2:40:39 PM UTC-6, Deanie Spikes wrote:
> >>>> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 11:01:51 AM UTC-6, John Robertson
wrote:
> >>>>> On 2022/11/19 8:15 a.m., Deanie Spikes wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 9:48:36 AM UTC-6, John Robertson
wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 2022/11/16 5:49 a.m., Deanie Spikes wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Friday, March 5, 2004 at 6:14:08 PM UTC-6, Andy Guthrie wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Well thanks for the warning... Unfortunately, it's said and done.
I
> >>>>>>>>> straightened out the contact and side A is now back in the game.
> >>>>>>>>> Everything is back to its original state, plus side A is working,
but I
> >>>>>>>>> am getting the occasional wrong selection error.
> >>>>>>>>> The most common mistake seems to be it reading a 5 as a 2 (i.e.,
playing
> >>>>>>>>> 126 instead of 156).
> >>>>>>>>> Until I scrape together the cash for the service manuals... Any
suggestions?
> >>>>>>>>> Happy Seeburg Olympian Owner wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> the strip is called a Tormat :)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> i wold not remove the tormat unless you have the manual!!! the
pice that
> >>>>>>>>>> scans the tormat if i remember right can be removed seperatly
>>>>>>>>>> manual>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Jim w
> >>>>>>>>>> "Andy Guthrie" wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>> news:4047a036$0$3078$61fe...@news.rcn.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, here's an update.
> >>>>>>>>>>> I can only assume that I was mistaken about seeing side A work
at the
> >>>>>>>>>>> previous owners house. I pulled the front off and found that the
contact
> >>>>>>>>>>> for the A side of the record (where it scans the magnetic
o-rings) is
> >>>>>>>>>>> bent. I am going to try to remove the strip of magnetic o-rings
(gee,
> >>>>>>>>>>> can you tell I'm a newbie with these terms?) and straighten out
the
> >>>>>>>>>>> sensor. I sure hope this works...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Andy Guthrie wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone- my first post.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have officially started my jukebox "collection" by buying a
Seeburg
> >>>>>>>>>>>> STD4 "Mardi Gras" model.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Things seem to be ok, except I cannot play side "A" of the
records. All
> >>>>>>>>>>>> of the side B's (the 2xx selections) work fine.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I followed Tony Miller's troubleshooting guide, and connected
the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> negative side of a D battery to the tormat lead, and the
machine did
> >>>>>>>>>>>> pick up each disc, but again, only played the B sides. The A
sides were
> >>>>>>>>>>>> working when I checked out the machine prior to buying it, so I
get the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> feeling that a wire may have fallen loose during the move.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> When I punch in a 1xx selection, the mechanism scans twice and
then
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> parks.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas what might cause the skipping of the 1xx selections?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi, Andy! I realize that I am replying to an ancient post, but I
figured it wouldn't hurt to try. I have the same issue with the exact same
jukebox. You mentioned that you straightened out the contact for side A
selections because it was
slightly bent. Could you please explain where this contact is located? I'm not
sure where to look! Thanks, so much!
> >>>>>>> Check connections in all the plugs related to the keyboard and
Tormat
> >>>>>>> (move outward if those are all good). You may find a damaged Molex
pin,
> >>>>>>> or a pin that is pushed back relative to the others so it is no
longer
> >>>>>>> making contact.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This is not uncommon...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> John :-#)#
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>> John, thanks for the advice! Please forgive my ignorance, but do I
need to remove the mechanism in order to check the connections in all the
plugs related to the keyboard and Tormat and look for damaged Molex pins? When
I got the jukebox, it was
not working. Lights came on, but the mechanism was stuck all the way to the
right (when looking from the back). After researching a LOT, I felt confident
enough to remove the mechanism, which I did. I oiled the motor, and manually
turned the coupling
until a full cycle was complete. It seemed to have been stuck in the play
position. I sprayed the contacts (only the few that I saw....I'm sure I missed
some) with contact cleaner. I replaced everything, and it started scanning! I
did the battery test,
and it picked up every #2 side, but none of the #1 sides.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sorry for rambling, but I just wanted to explain what I had done. So,
back to my original question...do I need to remove the mechanism again in
order to check for damaged connections or pins? Stupid question #2: is the
tarmat part of the whole
mechanism that comes out? Where, exactly, is it? Thanks for tolerating my
ignorance!
> >>>>> No, you shouldn't have to remove the mechanism to check the
connections.
> >>>>> I'm thinking checking at the control center first.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As for not playing one side, do check the manual and make sure you
have
> >>>>> set up the Tormat Readout contacts correctly. And the the Tormat is
> >>>>> aligned correctly, and that the Reversing Switch on the mechanism is
> >>>>> operating correctly - that the circuit to the readout switches - if
> >>>>> present - is exchanged correctly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I hope you have the manual! It should go into detail on
roubleshooting
> >>>>> and adjustments.
> >>>>> John :-#)#
> >>>> Thank you, John. I have the manual, and have printed out several
adjustment pages. Hopefully, I'll be able to make some progress!
> >>>
> >>>
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