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|    TD to nospam@nospam.co.uk    |
|    Re: Cleaning LP's    |
|    21 May 05 00:56:14    |
      From: nospam@nospam.co.uk              OK...              As a chemist, I can assure you that lighter fluid will not react with the       vinyl... Lighter fluid is a mixture mainly of alkanes. Alkanes are also       known as paraffins, from the latin 'parum affinis', meaning 'seldom       connected', from their quality of being unreactive. Chemically, they are       regarded as virtually inert: that might sound odd when you think about how       well they burn, but I can assure you that it's the case. Lighter fluid does       not dissolve or otherwise react with vinyl.              The Notting Hill Music & Video exchange is probably the best record shop in       the UK: upstairs you can find butcher covers, 3d satanic majesties, blue       prism dark side of the moons, numbered white albums and a load of other       stuff you have heard of but never actually seen. They use lighter fluid...              Leaching out plasticisers: I know a lot of people think this is a problem       with cleaning vinyl, and I suppose it might be if you soaked a record in       solvent for a few years. If you do a mass spectroscopic analysis of just       about any liquid - including alcohol or water - that has been stored in a       plastic container, you will see a phthalate peak, from the plasticiser, at       m/e 149. I spent 5 years in the mass spec business, and, believe me, I have       seen leached out plasticisers. Anyway, just about any solvent might,       potentially, leach out your plasticisers, but it is really not going to be a       problem during the couple of minutes that your record is in contact with       your cleaner. If you don't believe me, take a look at a HDPE bottle that's       been used to store something alcohol based - like mouthwash, for example -       for a few months: has it become brittle because the plasticers have been       leached out? No? I thought not.              I'm not sure what you think the mysterious chemicals lurking in auto-wash       ready to damage your records might be: vinyl is pretty unreactive stuff - it       doesn't oxidise in air, or rust, or do any of the sort of things that       reactive chemicals do - so the main problem would be anything that would       dissolve the vinyl, which would cerrtainly damage it. I've never tried       cleaning a record with methylene chloride or ethyl acetate, for example,       because they might well dissolve the vinyl. But does auto screen wash       dissolve vinyl? No.              WD-40, I will admit, is something of a last resort, for records which I have       tried other methods on but still sound much worse than visible marks would       suggest. As I said in my original email, you have to make sure you get it       all off: I clean with an alcohol-water mix (actually windscreen wash       decolorised with activated charcoal), which emulsifies the WD-40. I have       had a look at the stylus after playing a record cleaned in this way and       there is no visible 'gunk' on it.              Pure water - with or without detergent - is not, in my experience, a       particularly good way of cleaning records, although aqueous acetic acid       sounds like it is worth a try...              I have tried proprietary 'REAL' record cleaners, and have generally been       un-impressed. They are generally over-priced IPA-water mixes.              Hope this is helpful.                                                 "TD" |
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