XPost: rec.collecting.stamps.discuss, tor.general, can.general   
   From: unknown@nowhere.net   
      
   On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 09:50:33 -0600, FedUpPhilatelist   
    wrote:   
      
   Hey Bob:   
   How can it be slander, if it is in the Court record, as actual   
   statements made in open Court?   
      
   >Are YOU trying to have this public admission hushed up?   
   >Are you connected with the reprobate, the one who is a member and   
   >executive of so many philatelic organisations in Canada?   
      
   The Edmonton Tax office had 2 - yes 2 - Senior Criminal Special   
   Investigators in Court, busy taking down his testimony, given under   
   grilling examination and cross-examination. For a few thousand   
   dollars, even you can get a transcript.   
      
      
   >On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 14:13:51 GMT, Bob Ingraham    
   >wrote:   
   >   
   >>It seems that no one at all is involved. If someone is "dragged into a   
   >>courtroom" where he or she or they "had to tell the truth," then it's part   
   >>of the public record and the original poster should have no problem   
   >>revealing the both the names and "the truth". Whoever is posting this   
   >>slander needs to think seriously of seeking psychological counselling or   
   >>treatment by a psychiatrist.   
   >>   
   >>Bob Ingraham   
   >>   
   >>> From: Susan Cohen    
   >>> Organization: zhidfags   
   >>> Newsgroups:   
   >>> alt.collecting.stamps,rec.collecting.stamps.discuss,tor.general,can.general   
   >>> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 07:49:21 -0600   
   >>> Subject: Re: Rogue Causing Grief for Stamp Dealers,Collectors-Stamp Club   
   >>>   
   >>> Since there are but a few officials of the Edmonton Stamp Club   
   >>> it shouldn't take an Einstein to figure out who was dragged   
   >>> into a Courtroom, and then under examination and cross-examination   
   >>> had to tell the truth, for a change!!   
   >>>   
   >>> As for the dealers who had stock stolen while attending the Edmonton   
   >>> Stamp Show, I hear some are now telling their stories to LINNS.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 13:05:34 -0500, Paul    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> AS a former Edmonton collecter and Stamp Club member I am interested in   
   >>>> knowing who is involved.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Reply to this paul@novirtualnorthspam.net without the no spam.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Interested Party wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Thanks to all the publicity being generated in newsgroups, and   
   >>>>> elsewhere, thanks to the reprobate stamp dealer who testified   
   >>>>> in Court, not only is he now under severe investigation by   
   >>>>> the Canadian tax authorities, now many other dealers are   
   >>>>> being similarly investigated in Canada.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Dealers attending stamp shows in Canada will be getting undercover visits   
   >>>>> from   
   >>>>> Frauds Investigators for Provincial Sales Taxes, Federal GST, Income   
   Taxes,   
   >>>>> as well as quiet visits from RCMP regarding money laundering.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Also, because of the close collaboration between CCRA and the   
   >>>>> IRS, no doubt also involving INTERPOL, other stamp dealers around   
   >>>>> the world will also get nailed for tax frauds.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> All thanks to the one caught in an open courtroom, and forced   
   >>>>> to admit under cross-examination.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You, grashuk seem to be the liar,based on your foolish comments.   
   >>>>> Mind you, it seems other convicted criminals seem to want to   
   >>>>> also deflect attention from the FACT, that Special Investigators   
   >>>>> from CCRA attended a Court to gather evidence regarding a witness,   
   >>>>> and his admitted improprieties!!!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Had you attended in the Court in Edmonton, you also could have met with   
   >>>>> the 2 Special Investigators from CCRA.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And yes, under Canadian Tax law, YOU ARE GUILTY UNTIL YOU PROVE YOUR   
   >>>>> INNOCENCE!! In fact the same applies to laws relating to Customs,and   
   >>>>> Immigration.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> From: "Curious Tax Guy"    
   >>>>> Newsgroups: can.taxes,can.general,ab.general,calgary.general,tor.general   
   >>>>> Subject: Re: CCRA Investigate - Stamp Club Used to LAUNDER Money!!   
   >>>>> Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 15:54:10 GMT   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> what a bunch of crap. And this liar remails this garbage over and over.   
   If   
   >>>>> this is real, which it isn't, post the citation.   
   >>>>> such drug-induced banter: "under Canadian tax law, one is GUILTY until   
   one   
   >>>>> can prove innocence". Oh puh-leeeeze.   
   >>>>> Get it right or get lost.   
   >>>>> CTG   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "Philatelist"  wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:2OGO79W537775.7133217593@anonymous.poster...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> This time it wasn't your favourite bishopric(G).   
   >>>   
   >>>>>> Rather it was a well-known member and senior official of a number   
   >>>>>> of Canadian philatelic groups, who got caught lying in Court!!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> In a Canadian civil trial, Special Investigators of the   
   >>>>>> Canadian tax authorities, C.C.R.A. attended, while gathering   
   >>>>>> evidence about a witness for the defence, who admitted on   
   >>>>>> the stand, that he was laundering some of his profits   
   >>>>>> through a local stamp club, of which he was an officer!!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> He also admitted, finally, that he was involved in several   
   >>>>>> other stamp businesses, which he had failed to declare on   
   >>>>>> his tax returns. Many millions of dollars were mentioned!!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Needless to say, he and his lawyer are now very annoyed,   
   >>>>>> because under Canadian tax law, one is GUILTY until one   
   >>>>>> can prove innocence.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> This particular slime-ball even had connections with criminals,   
   >>>>>> including some expelled by APS for serious criminal acts such   
   >>>>>> as armed robbery of a stamp collection from a widow!!   
   >>>>>> He also cited as a reference the firm in Denmark NF INTERNATIONAL,   
   >>>>>> expelled from most organisations for fraud.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I don't doubt that the RCMP Commercial Crime division, IRS, and   
   >>>>>> even Interpol will now have an interest in this guy, as well as   
   >>>>>> other officials of stamp clubs, now that one has admitted in Court   
   >>>>>> his devious business dealings to cheat the tax authroities.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Amazing what one can learn from stamp collecting....   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> Further, dealers attending stamp shows where this person is in charge of   
   >>>>> shows,   
   >>>>> have a high risk of being robbed while participating at his shows.   
   >>>>> Several years in a row now, the media have reported major thefts of   
   dealers.   
   >>>>> One must wonder,whether they are "inside" jobs???   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
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   >>>   
      
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