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   Sue H to lorriems24@yahoo.com   
   Re: Starting to doubt AutographWorld   
   05 Sep 08 15:39:12   
   
   c9711d62   
   From: dahoov2@cox.net   
      
   contracts can be forged easily.  blank contracts can be laser copied   
   and signatures forged... there is no such thing as a 100% except for   
   the person who gets it themself and never sells it.   
      
   Personally, your buying something frorm larger auction houses means   
   NOTHING.  It is my opinion R and R auction, a big auction house they   
   claim, sells plenty of questionable items.   
      
   In addition, signature house and Profiles in history are good   
   companies in my opinion, but unless bought directly from the estates   
   of the celeb themselves, it's all questionable.  Occasionally, a   
   signed SW poster or script is shown in there that could be ify....   
   I've not encountered a fake one yet, HOWEVER, they have some items   
   sold to them on commission from collectors like us.... and they don't   
   have proof.  You cannot just claim one company is better because it's   
   got a name like Sotheby's... it MAY be better overall, but NOBODY IS   
   IMMUNE.  Not even your purchases or mine and I consider myself an   
   educated person on this subject.   
      
   On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 11:24:52 -0700 (PDT), lorriems24@yahoo.com wrote:   
      
   >On Sep 5, 7:19 am, Dominic    
   >wrote:   
   > Lorriems24 is also backing claims   
   >> that AW is indeed selling fakes or forgeries.   
   >> Have you purchased autographs you believe or know are fake in the past?   
   >> What are your basing your claims on that the items are fake?   
   >>   
   >> Dominic   
   >   
   >I'm saying that a fool and their money are easily parted.  Why would   
   >someone buy a photo with a hurried squiggle on it, rather than a   
   >signed contract?  Because the photo with the squiggle on it is much   
   >cheaper and much more plentiful.  This isn't just about one autograph   
   >dealer.  It's about all of them.  Video proof won't prove anything,   
   >unless the exact item you are buying is getting signed in the clip.  I   
   >can get a video of any celebrity signing and say they signed your item   
   >during that encounter.  It isn't wise to make outright claims of   
   >forgery, since such comments can be actionable.  And I don't really   
   >have time to give anyone a free lesson on how to avoid questionable   
   >autographs by going lot by lot through an auction separating the   
   >questionable from the good.  But if I was called to do that in a court   
   >of law, it would be very simple.  These problems are much more   
   >prevalent with modern stars than vintage.   
   >   None of the items I've purchased are fake to my knowledge and I've   
   >never spent money with AutographWorld or AutographPros before.  Most   
   >of the items I purchase are obtained directly from larger auction   
   >houses or signed in-person.   
      
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