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Their "authenticators" I know about. I can't say too much as I am
bound by ethical promises. However, for my part, I will admit I have
given input on a couple things (asked opinion) and when I said I
couldn't tell or it was good, they pulled several items anyway that I
said this on.... because one or more of the other items were bad or
because someone said "I don't know if I agree, I think that's bad".
My personal opinion is that unless it's blatantly obvious or the
person have 500 "ify" items that you are pretty confident they are all
wrong (don't be too literal; by 500 I just mean a lot which can be
subjective), then leave it alone. Or just do away with the autograph
categories all together.
In addition, I have heard that the authenticators are paid for
companies (hmm.... what ccompanies may be out there.... I won't say a
damned thing here; you think and come to your own conclusions). By
Paid for, I mean you give them money to authenticate.
We've had this conversations before. Ebay doesn't have it's own
experts. What they have is people like you and me who charge a
service that isn't making much money or wants to make more... people
who continually get caught up on lies and show they don't know one sig
from another. People who think they are experts, made themselves
experts by acting like them and inserting themselves into the arena by
making a cool site, charging and just posting places and "sounding"
like an expert. People who say in person golf flags signed in person
are fakes. Or people who sit at convention tables and for a fee
authenticate everything and say that a baseball sig which someone
forged outside the venue to "test" said was real because the player
was there signing. When I am flamed at for coming across like and
"expert" because of the way I write infuriates me. Why? Because
there's a difference between me and them. I don't take people's money.
All my musings always have the caveat that it's an OPINION. And I do
it free, which irritates some here.
Let's just say I've said this a million times... you can't be paying
people for opinions. You should get an OPINION free, and you can take
or leave it (I'd take the opinion and compare it to many others to get
a sense for myself).
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 05:36:34 -0700 (PDT), Craig
wrote:
>EBay has done it again. (I know some people will be POed I had a Paul
>Newman up but what can I say?) I had an in person Paul Newman signed
>Butch Cassidy one sheet that I obtained in person myself up on Ebay
>until this morning when I received an email from Ebay telling me it
>was pulled and it was a forgery that had been confirmed by THEIR
>"authenticators". They went on to basically say I could have it
>authenticated for a fee by one of their people and put it back on, BUT
>they would only accept authentication by one of their listed
>companies. So even though I have a picture from the signing in 2004,
>4-5 people/witnesses who were there and saw him sign it (which would
>be silly to say in a listing, but it was part of my arguement with
>them) and can provide an actual date/time, etc. it can only be
>authenticated by a select few who work with EBay. It is authentic and
>doesn't that make one wonder about the "authenticators" out there? I
>got it signed myself and can bear witness to that fact but alas it's
>not good enough. So it's obvious they do not really know their stuff
>and Ebay is just looking for another way to gouge sellers. Has anyone
>else had this experience? There's got to be a better place to buy/
>sell on the net doesn't there?
>
>Craig
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