From: dahoov2@cox.net
PS these authenticators should not be allowed on Ebay if they are
pushing them to get "paid" that is a conflict of interest and is
sueable if you ask me.
On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:23:50 -0400, Sue H wrote:
>Their "authenticators" I know about. I can't say too much as I am
>bound by ethical promises. However, for my part, I will admit I have
>given input on a couple things (asked opinion) and when I said I
>couldn't tell or it was good, they pulled several items anyway that I
>said this on.... because one or more of the other items were bad or
>because someone said "I don't know if I agree, I think that's bad".
>My personal opinion is that unless it's blatantly obvious or the
>person have 500 "ify" items that you are pretty confident they are all
>wrong (don't be too literal; by 500 I just mean a lot which can be
>subjective), then leave it alone. Or just do away with the autograph
>categories all together.
>
>In addition, I have heard that the authenticators are paid for
>companies (hmm.... what ccompanies may be out there.... I won't say a
>damned thing here; you think and come to your own conclusions). By
>Paid for, I mean you give them money to authenticate.
>
>We've had this conversations before. Ebay doesn't have it's own
>experts. What they have is people like you and me who charge a
>service that isn't making much money or wants to make more... people
>who continually get caught up on lies and show they don't know one sig
>from another. People who think they are experts, made themselves
>experts by acting like them and inserting themselves into the arena by
>making a cool site, charging and just posting places and "sounding"
>like an expert. People who say in person golf flags signed in person
>are fakes. Or people who sit at convention tables and for a fee
>authenticate everything and say that a baseball sig which someone
>forged outside the venue to "test" said was real because the player
>was there signing. When I am flamed at for coming across like and
>"expert" because of the way I write infuriates me. Why? Because
>there's a difference between me and them. I don't take people's money.
>All my musings always have the caveat that it's an OPINION. And I do
>it free, which irritates some here.
>
>Let's just say I've said this a million times... you can't be paying
>people for opinions. You should get an OPINION free, and you can take
>or leave it (I'd take the opinion and compare it to many others to get
>a sense for myself).
>
>
>On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 05:36:34 -0700 (PDT), Craig
>wrote:
>
>>EBay has done it again. (I know some people will be POed I had a Paul
>>Newman up but what can I say?) I had an in person Paul Newman signed
>>Butch Cassidy one sheet that I obtained in person myself up on Ebay
>>until this morning when I received an email from Ebay telling me it
>>was pulled and it was a forgery that had been confirmed by THEIR
>>"authenticators". They went on to basically say I could have it
>>authenticated for a fee by one of their people and put it back on, BUT
>>they would only accept authentication by one of their listed
>>companies. So even though I have a picture from the signing in 2004,
>>4-5 people/witnesses who were there and saw him sign it (which would
>>be silly to say in a listing, but it was part of my arguement with
>>them) and can provide an actual date/time, etc. it can only be
>>authenticated by a select few who work with EBay. It is authentic and
>>doesn't that make one wonder about the "authenticators" out there? I
>>got it signed myself and can bear witness to that fact but alas it's
>>not good enough. So it's obvious they do not really know their stuff
>>and Ebay is just looking for another way to gouge sellers. Has anyone
>>else had this experience? There's got to be a better place to buy/
>>sell on the net doesn't there?
>>
>>Craig
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