From: B_Plenge@NoSpam.com   
      
   Sue H wrote:   
   > I am guessing that's a good question to discuss... why be a member of   
   > the UACC if you are not going to abide by their code/mantra or   
   > whatever.  I would assume that when you join, you take an oath of   
   > sorts (at least agree somewhere to follow); however it's up to the   
   > organization to make sure their members are kosher.  Applicants should   
   > go through a screening process and then after, they should   
   > occasionally police their members.  Otherwise, what are you paying for   
   > other than the privledge of having a name attached to legally sell   
   > forgeries etc?  I am sure a lot of forgers squeaked by or at least try   
   > to.  It's obvious the entity probably started somewhere with two   
   > people starting a group (like any two of us) and had ideas.  Just like   
   > the owners of this newsgroup... where are they?  What's the history?   
   > I haven't looked but hopefully they have an archive somewhere; a file   
   > cabinet with all their stuff.  One day who knows, could grow to be   
   > like Masons, Elks, or any other type organization where history will   
   > be important (for staying power, longevity and documentation will be   
   > needed).   
   >   
   > But they aren't big enough (probably just a few guys running it?   
   > Maybe even one or two?) to police everything.  You do need to do what   
   > my hubby had to do for his job... it's called QAE or Quality Assurance   
   > Evaluations.  You spot check say quarterly x amount of people to spot   
   > check and then give them warnings etc as needed.   
   >   
   > On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 21:22:43 -0700 (PDT), barefoot   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
      
   They do expect their members to follow the code of ethics, the hall of shame   
   at their website shows what happens when they don't.  I use to be a member,   
   but stopped renewing when I became inactive in the hobby.  If I ever gt back   
   to collecting I'll probably rejoin.  The peace of mind of knowing a dispute   
   on an item with another party can be arbitrated is worth it.  I also enjoyed   
   attending their shows and did my best not to drool on too many autographs   
   when I did :)  Unfortunately the last show of their I wanted to attend I   
   didn't go to, and think it was canceled, it was in NYC the weekend after   
   9/11.   Now that I relocated to Minnesota I doubt I'll ever have the chance   
   to attend another.   
      
   Best,   
   Bill   
      
   >> yeah sorry...my mistake. uacc is the uacc...lots of people are   
   >> members..but why be a member if you're not going to uphold the uacc   
   >> guidelines or regualtions.   
   >>   
   >> by the way, i would LOVE to be totally wrong about this guy...but the   
   >> simple fact of the matter is, is that i am not...i would totally love   
   >> to rally around the people doing it right...but instead of addressing   
   >> the accusations, he chooses to try and discredit me...and i'm all for   
   >> that...but when the truth comes out and other people see it like i   
   >> see it...he's going to have a hard time discrediting EVERYONE!   
   >> m   
      
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