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   Message 797 of 2,438   
   Sue H to Sue H   
   Re: andys.soulbox (1/2)   
   06 May 08 09:30:34   
   
   From: dahoov2@cox.net   
      
   I forgot to mention that the Star Wars world has become a bit of a   
   joke.  They are so bored talking about the same stuff they are now   
   into valuating signatures based on what type of pen used, how much the   
   signature varies from the others (so if someone like Ford signed 10   
   things for Official Pix and on one of them it's a little sloppy, it'd   
   be worth less). It's RIDICULOUS.  They analyze everything.  really,   
   that was crap started by someone who wanted to be "someone" in that   
   world.... they want to be the next expert.  Cracks me up as there are   
   no experts.  But all the little lemmings look up to certain collectors   
   like their Gods.  We're all human beings who make mistakes and the   
   biggest mistake is making someone a "god" of collecting so you can pay   
   their insane prices (that's right, those are the people who claim to   
   know everything and end up setting the prices paid for things).  That   
   and signings.  If you keep paying these high prices, you hurt   
   yoursself.  In the end, you will regret it.  I sit here and will be   
   happy to sell you my stuff at these price if you are a masochist.  I   
   am attached, but not stupidly so.   
      
   On Tue, 06 May 2008 09:23:19 -0400, Sue H  wrote:   
      
   >On Mon, 5 May 2008 22:00:48 -0700 (PDT), northfield   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>On May 5, 6:03?pm, Sue H  wrote:   
   >>> Well some say good and some say bad. ?We'd been over his site and I've   
   >>> talked with Lon at length. ?The problem for me was the Harry Potter   
   >>> and SW multi-signed posters which he admitted to buying elsewhere and   
   >>> him selling them for so much when all the sigs were bad. ?He may know   
   >>> sports but apparently, he's not well versed in these areas. ? That's   
   >>> where I can definitively (not all the time but sometimes) tell you if   
   >>> something is bad. ?I have no clue about anything other than those   
   >>> items and a couple ify SW items he had (I told him about them at the   
   >>> time).   
   >>>   
   >>> It is possible he and a LOT (MOST of the dealers everywhere) trust   
   >>> people who turn not so good. ?It happens. ?I've seen it happen with   
   >>> older ones like Jungle Intrigue ... anyone remember them? ?Had a batch   
   >>> in there some years ago that was bad. ?Also Tswee... who admitted to   
   >>> buying bulk from people's collections. ?The result was him banking on   
   >>> long time collectors who knew there stuff. ?But with any collections   
   >>> (mine included) you will have a few odd items here and there not so   
   >>> great (secretarials, forgeries etc). ?   
   >>>   
   >>> I do not judge Strickler. ?I do NOT know if he's selling intentionally   
   >>> or not. ?I talked to him and he seems like a nice guy. ?I know he's   
   >>> got connections and his area of specialty it seems is sports. ?He   
   >>> should stick with that. I always give people the benefit of the doubt.   
   >>> But if people tell you and they know what they are talking about, then   
   >>> maybe it's prudent to pay a little attention. So to keep selling stuff   
   >>> after, well, it's kind of wrong. ?There my be disagreements; if he   
   >>> feels the stuff is good, but someone says something is amiss, it's   
   >>> simple in the Star Wars realm... simply email the actors and ask.   
   >>> Sometimes they respond. ?Or contact a number of other Star Wars   
   >>> collectors. ?I have names if interested, but was never asked by him   
   >>> for other people to give their opinions. ?That would be the prudent   
   >>> thing to do (get various opinions if something is in question). ?Maybe   
   >>> not worth it on smaller stuff but on posters? ?Yes, ?In addition, the   
   >>> person selling it to him if say is opinion to all the collectors to be   
   >>> fraudulent, wouldn't that be something he should consider? ?I mean he   
   >>> could get his money back, or he could disassociate from further deals   
   >>> with them in the future.... ?   
   >>>   
   >>> On Mon, 5 May 2008 14:01:04 -0700 (PDT), northfield   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>> >On May 5, 2:47?pm, barefoot  wrote:   
   >>> >> not at all...i wouldn't recommend him to anyone, not even to people i   
   >>> >> don't like...   
   >>> >> i do love how he used a secretary to come in and say all his stuff is   
   >>> >> legit...it's probably him, he's already posted from 2 accounts as it   
   >>> >> is.   
   >>> >> m   
   >>>   
   >>> >hi barefoot and Sue - I'm only saying that I have not heard bad things   
   >>> >about strickler from trusted people I know in this hobby. ?if he is   
   >>> >buying and reselling like many major dealers all do then I'm sure his   
   >>> >sources are sound. ?I do not work for him or his wife - his wife owns   
   >>> >the autograph business btw - they just use his name according to a   
   >>> >dealer here in nyc I have talked to. ?he mostly writes, appraises and   
   >>> >lectures all the time now. ?I used to post here years ago under name   
   >>> >'eastside' - I remember Sue from then. ?Sharon- Hide quoted text -   
   >>>   
   >>> - Show quoted text -   
   >>   
   >>hi sue - thanks for answering, I can see that you are very sensible   
   >>when comes to the hobby and don't jump to conclusion like others who   
   >>really have no information about a person.  have you talked to Lon or   
   >>by email?  I don't know maybe sometimes it's easier to understand by   
   >>talking to a person - he has very good knowledge of vintage and   
   >>classic signatures and documents.  as far as current autographed items   
   >>I really don't have much insight as to what strickler sells though I   
   >>have seen his website. I'm sure if anyone really wanted to find out   
   >>about him there are surely many hobby references.   
   >   
   >Yes, I have.  I only know about a few vintage sigs (certain people I   
   >have in my collection I took many months to research before I bought   
   >so I got familiar after a while with them) but to be honest, I only   
   >stick to the stuff I know and advise people on that. I get emails   
   >sometimes for people wanting me to authenticate stuff like baseballs   
   >or other stuff and I usually just steer them to others.  I know what I   
   >collect and like Barefoot says, anyone who's been in the hobby a long   
   >time will know more than most because after a while, you've seen a   
   >thousand real in person Mark Hamills or what have you and you just   
   >know.  However, I still have a hard time with a couple and will always   
   >admit to it.  But on some?  I can see it in a blink.... as I am sure   
   >Barefoot can.   
   >   
   >My advice to ANYONE buying anything is not to rely even on people you   
   >think know stuff (like Barefoot and myself).  If you wanted to buy a   
   >Star Wars multi-signed poster, ask me.  Then ask at least one or two   
   >other opinions AND then take the item you want and start compariing it   
   >to known real signatures.  Unless you are in an auction where it ends   
   >in less than an hour or less, you most likely can find a few things to   
   >help you decide. But alas, people bid without doing any work at all.   
   >If you are serious about your collection, you should do a little work.   
      
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