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   From: dahoov2@cox.net   
      
   Well for me, I am a problem because first, I am the one where a lot of   
   info could come from (I prefer doing my own research FIRST) so I   
   usually get all the main people right away (whoever is apt to sign).   
   I was on there yesterday with a free trial for hours.  I looked up   
   names individually one by one.  I would probably keep the account one   
   more month though, to harvest all I can... then what I'll do is try   
   them.  I tried almost every address you had on there in my past and   
   see I got RTS's or pendings and you have nothing reported. but I   
   didn't have time to annotate every new address or other addresses you   
   did NOT have that I've tried and either got a success or RTS for or   
   are pending (I did some I felt were pretty relevant etc).  I really   
   don't feel like I should pay to give YOU all the info I have.  That   
   doesn't make sense.  I also felt like a lot of people are putting   
   addresses on there for no reason, and not sure where they come from as   
   nobody has ever tested them.... but are they really?  I suspect they   
   are and not reporting their results.  That hurts the community.   
      
   I did last night, for the first time, come across about 8 or so   
   addresses that might be worth trying.  However, I had not researched   
   these yet first, so I am GUESSING probably 6 of them I could find   
   right off.  So for the potential of 2 addresses after spending 4 hours   
   on there.... and the potential that those two will yield a success,   
   it's not worth it.  Do you see what I mean?  It's not Star Tiger's   
   fault.  It's the people not reporting that are   
      
   1) putting untested addresses on there without intentions of ever   
   doing anything after   
   2) people not really reporting what they are trying.  (for the record,   
   I probably added 30 Pendings the other day and 10 RTS's overall).  But   
   I was definitely NOT interested in giving you new addresses I found   
   through hours of research that I just tried. I want my success first   
   and that of Paul's and Friends groups first.  You know, where everyone   
   is AWESOME and not talking about one another.   
   3) there's a LOT and I mean a LOT of old info.  I don't know how you   
   could police this, so I can't fault the site. I see where there's a   
   good job with plays and removing them when they expire (or other   
   venues) but there are many, many addresses where the person left the   
   agency YEARS ago.   
      
   Recommendations. I don't know how much money Star Tiger makes.  But   
   you have to SPEND money to make money.  When you have volunteers,   
   that's well and good.  But a paid position might be in order.   
   Literally pay someone a salary to do a few things to improve your site   
   and the potential for a money making site would be phenomenal. You   
   could have someone out there researching plays.  Or someone going   
   through and calling agencies for current client lists (and then cross   
   referencing those lists to the 'extra' people being reported at that   
   same agency (so you can delete them).   You need to have people   
   researching addresses... verifying.  Getting rid of useless info.  You   
   need to have people shooting you ideas like holding a contest or other   
   "incentives" to get people to take a couple hours of their time and   
   post info there (for example, a free month if you take your list and   
   go through it and post at least 50 pieces of new information (whether   
   it be RTS's, Pending, or addresses they forgot to report before, or   
   scanning images).  If you can track how many things people have   
   submitted (don't know what your capability is), then you could do   
   really well.  Or start with 100 items (making it harder for first   
   level) and then a second free month for those posting an additional 75   
   and a third month for those doing 50 (to make it more to your benefit,   
   you can make it within a time limit; say a week, forcing people not to   
   do it here and there, but to actually sit down and do it immediately).   
      
   Now, because I am on a free trial and even if I actually pay for   
   another month, I cannot simply report my successes anymore.... because   
   most of those will take a lot longer before they come in.  I am   
   guessing a lot of people do this? So you need to make them stay.  How   
   I am not sure.  I would probably be more apt to stay if more info was   
   reported and I knew you did not allow people to talk about anyone.   
   Tell them stick to the subject of collecting and no more.  No name   
   calling, no flaming.  See, you can do what you want... you can boot   
   people.  Word on the street is the ones who cause problems are   
   probably high contributors so you don't want to say anything.  You   
   really need to find a way to combat that.   
      
   The only HUGE problems I have with your site are personal ones.  1)   
   it's a closed off community that talks about other groups I hear   
   without benefit of those others hearing stuff about them.  That should   
   be disallowed. NO TALKING ABOUT OTHERS if the others are not there to   
   defend themselves.  2) You really should NOT have to pay for address   
   information that is free, but I've been lightening up on this a bit   
   after I see you do offer "other information" that is of some limited   
   use. and finally 3) Once someone reports a success, you can't stop the   
   rush of people writing which I evidenced a LOT yesterday, proving my   
   theory... someone gets a success.  Then 5 others report a success   
   within a month or so of that, then you'll see a dozen pending ones   
   after and then NOTHING from then on.  This is telling me there was an   
   onslaught (if that many reported, twice as many did not report   
   anything as you know 75% of people are lurkers rather than workers) of   
   mail and the celebrity is no longer signing.  I guess there's nothing   
   you can do about that, but I am a person who doesn't want to be part   
   of that.  I prefer smaller groups. HOwever, I am MOST happy to report   
   RTS's, Pendings, other addresses I've tried, email addresses, scans   
   etc.   
      
   You need site statistics (like Ebay where you can track users etc and   
   who's doing what).  You need a complaint system where a person is   
   flagged for being warned and then if a repeated offender of something,   
   is booted.  you need to take that info and develop it.  Star Tiger is   
   HUGE.  It's on the verge of being something mega (and profit making)   
   but there is only staleness as the design and rest of it isn't   
   growing.  Though I do appreciate INFO growing more than the looks;   
   ease of use etc.  Don't get caught up in the Ebay trap where you have   
   to pay for too many upgrades that are not needed and then forced to   
   pass that to the customer.  Subtle, easy changes to keep people   
   interested but stick with INFORMATION as that's what drove people   
   there in the first place and will always be why they are there.  (as I   
   am writing this, I feel like I should start my own company.... LOL).   
      
   I hope something here helps.  Just my thoughts from my recent perusing   
   (I have a few more films to go through and try too but not sure I will   
      
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