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   Bjørn Sørheim to jj4public@vfemail.net   
   Re: Long lasting boot-problem that won't   
   03 Nov 14 03:28:10   
   
   From: bsoerhei@nixspam.online.no   
      
   On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 07:42:12 +0700, JJ  wrote:   
      
   >On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 00:43:51 +0100, Bj??m wrote:   
   >> The disk has 64 Kb in bad sectors, but I see from a photo I took of a   
   >> blue screen of the disk in November 2009 that it had exactly that   
   >> number back then too. And it is just in the last year the booting   
   >> problem occured. No such thing before that whatsoever. Bad sectors are   
   >> marked by the OS arn't they?   
   >   
   >Yes. The marker would prevent the OS from storing data in bad or unstable   
   >sectors.   
   >   
   >> I trace the problem looking at entries in the Event viewer (Se Shadows   
   >> post below) to Security Center and the Service Control Manager (in   
   >> System). What could this Manager be doing specifically?? The system   
   >> crashes almost each and every time this run after booting. No other   
   >> entries after it ever listed, so it got to be it. There is an error   
   >> message (translated below to english):   
   >   
   >The Service Control Mnager (SCM) is a functionality that's part of the OS   
   >kernel (deep in the core). It's the one that oversees and handles all of the   
   >services in the system. The files required by the services are likely the   
   >ones that caused the error, not the SCM. i.e. one or more are stored in   
   >unstable sectors where if read, sometimes good data is returned and   
   >sometimes it's errorneous. If the kernel files are actually stored in   
   >unstable sectors, your system would crash sooner and more frequently than   
   >you think.   
   >   
   >> "The service Automatic LiveUpdate-planning can not be started because   
   >> of the following error:   
   >> The System can not find the stated path."   
   >>   
   >> (in original norwegian:   
   >> Tjenesten Automatisk LiveUpdate-planlegging kan ikke startes på grunn   
   >> av følgende feil:   
   >> Systemet finner ikke angitt bane. )   
   >>   
   >> So obviously there is a path-problem. Bu how can I correct this?   
   >> And what is Service Control Manager?   
   >> Note that this has probably nothing to do with the Virus Program, it   
   >> is Live-Update for the XP-updates.   
   >>   
   >> Bjørn   
   >   
   >The error detail may be stored in a separate text file as *.LOG or *log*.txt   
   >in C:\WINDOWS, the system temporary directory, or the user temporary   
   >directory. If you can't find it, use Microsoft Process Monitor to monitor   
   >file error events, then start/restart that service to reproduce the problem.   
   >   
   >The missing file may be found in the software installer package. You'll need   
   >to manually extract the contents to get the file. Try using 7-Zip or   
   >Universal Extractor. If both can't extract them, you'll have to reinstall   
   >the whole product.   
      
   I fixed the problem!   
   Actually it was the Virus Program(s) that was the culprit.   
   I deleted then reinstalled it earlier today, but to no avail,   
   therefore I assumed it was another live update from the above error   
   message.   
   However I went into Services-section and found Automatic   
   LiveUpdater-Planning. Saw that the path there pointed to an obsolete   
   old LiveUpdater from the previous manufacturer of the Virus program   
   coming through my Internet Service Provider. So I simply deactivated   
   that LiveUpdater.   
      
   Now my computer boots at first try! The last two attempts at booting   
   before the fix, took 40 and 17 tries...   
   One weired thing was that typing in the password while logging in had   
   to be done as fast as possibly could be done in order to have a chance   
   of  boot before the fix. Just a few seconds delay, and you could   
   forget it. Cannot explain this strange oddity :-)   
      
   Thanks to especially JJ and Shadow for getting me on the right track   
   here!   
      
   Bjørn   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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