XPost: alt.windows7.general   
   From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:   
   > Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:   
   >> Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:   
   >>> Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:   
   >>>> Ian Jackson wrote:   
   >>>>> In message , Wolf K    
   >>>>> writes   
   >>>>>> On 2018-01-31 01:19, Steve Hayes wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 18:42:09 -0000, "Mr Pounder Esquire"   
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Sorry to have to ask here. The XP groups are not doing very   
   >>>>>>>> much. I've tried the Mozilla groups and got nowhere.   
   >>>>>>> I reverted to Firefox v41 and turned off update nagging.   
   >>>>>>> It runs much faster now, and only crashes once a fortnight   
   >>>>>>> instead of   
   >>>>>>> 7 times a day.   
   >>>>>>> But every time I run it it tells me how much faster the latest   
   >>>>>>> version   
   >>>>>>> is. So much for truth in advertising.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> FF 52.6.0 ESR, no problems, Win8.1 Home 64bit, no auto-updating   
   >>>>>> for anything.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> With my XP Pro, 32-bit, FF 52.6.0 ESR now takes at least a minute   
   >>>>> to 'get up to speed' after launch. It's often not too happy with   
   >>>>> those websites that carry a lot of additional baggage. It usually   
   >>>>> helps if run with the addons disabled.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I also find it helps to have a dummy (unused) session of FF running   
   >>>>> - and if I then launch another session, that starts quite quickly.   
   >>>> Well, I followed Paul's advice and turned off hardware acceleration   
   >>>> in Firebox (it's in "Advanced" and is easy to ignore) and all has   
   >>>> been fine all day long. I tried youtube, no problems.   
   >>>> Tonight I have just turned off and on computer twice.   
   >>>> Firefox/Google has loaded like lightning, like it used to do.   
   >>>> Also, believe it or not, this old computer seems to have booted up a   
   >>>> lot faster, and I don't understand why.   
   >>>> I just hope it lasts. Touches wood .............   
   >>>> Many thanks to Paul.   
   >>>> Are you the guy that helped me out with a television aerial a few   
   >>>> years ago?   
   >>> It was fine for a few hours today, then it slowed down again. Aww   
   >>> well, cleaning the browser with Revo Uninstaller only takes a few   
   >>> seconds.   
   >> Just rolled Firefox back to version 51.0.1.   
   >> Sod the security warnings and "thou should not be doing this!"   
   >> I'll report back.   
   >   
   > Reporting back.   
   > Rolling back made no difference.   
   > Not that it really matters, Revo cleans the browser in a few seconds.   
   > But ............. why is this happening?   
      
   All I can tell you, is I'm seeing a slowdown in Firefox on my   
   Win10 machine. They tell me it's related to the Javascript advertising   
   scripts that have to load, but I'm not totally convinced at the moment.   
   It kinda smells like a Windows Defender problem. The browser activity   
   icon is still working - it would work asynchronous to everything   
   else, and is not a real progress indicator at all. It's a hood ornament.   
   Still, if bobbles away, while I'm waiting. I'm suspecting something   
   networking related, under the control of Windows Defender and friends   
   has something to do with mine.   
      
   Do I want to spend time debugging it ? :-/   
      
   I need "hints" to keep me interested. And I need   
   some sort of evidence it's a problem I have a possibility   
   of fixing. There's no hints yet for mine, except the suspicion   
   the OS is doing this (somehow). Which is not something   
   I expect to be able to fix. I've turned off Windows Defender real   
   time before, and that doesn't actually stop the engine from   
   running. It merely gives the partial appearance it's disabled.   
   A lot of other AVs do this stuff too - the heuristic detection   
   may continue to run, while the signature scanning stops.   
      
    Paul   
      
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