XPost: alt.windows-xp   
   From: not.my.real@email.address   
      
   Wayne wrote:   
      
   > On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 15:10:28 -0000 (UTC), "Auric__"   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >>[cross-posting because the OP multi-posted]   
   >>   
   >>Wayne wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> In my old age and its senilty, I have forgotten much about XP.   
   >>>   
   >>> I have inherited this BRAND-NEW STILL IN THE BOX eMachines T3104 PC,   
   >>> and want to set it up for my grandson.  It is set up as it comes with   
   >>> some softwares.  It boots up and runs fine, except for the internet,   
   >>> which does not surprise me.   
   >>>   
   >>> I have CAT5-connected the T3104 to my Verizon router, which is also   
   >>> connected to, and runs fine with, this W7 PC.   
   >>>   
   >>> I can't remember how to set up XP to connnect to this router.   I have   
   >>> tried many things to no avail-so I am missing something.   I can't   
   >>> even get to where it should ask for my router's password.  I have   
   >>> tried everything applicable in its XP's Control Panel, to no avail.   
   >>> Oh - I forgot to say that so far I cannot get any 'internet access'   
   >>> icon in the task bar.   
   >>> Now I need to ask for help.   
   >>>   
   >>> Help?   
   >>   
   >>There shouldn't be anything necessary; it *should* "just work". Logging in   
   >>to the router shouldn't be necessary for a wired connection. I've   
   >>certainly never had to do so.   
   >   
   > Well - I think it  shud just work too - but it didn't.  I ave always   
   > had to enter the Verizon router's pword in the past - I have connected   
   > several PCs hard wired (cat5) and they all required that.  I am   
   > talking W7 8 and 10 tho.  Even tho it is a wireless router which I   
   > connect to my printers that way.   
      
   I have very little experience with PC<->cellular internet (and no experience   
   at all with Verizon) so I can't really say anything about it.   
      
   >>In the Control Panel, open Network Connections. There should be an entry   
   >>there called something like "Local Area Connection". (If nothing's there,   
   >>run Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> Communications -> Network   
   >>Setup Wizard.) Make sure it says it's "Connected", and not "Disabled".   
   >   
   > I have (I think):   
   >   
   > connection manager   
   >    MSN disconnected firewalled   
   >   pci soft datafax modem with ......   
   >   
   > internet gateway   
   >   internet connection   
   >   connected   
   >   internet connection   
   >   
   > lan or highspeed internet   
   >   local area connection   
   >   connected firewalled   
   >   realtek rtl 8139   family ..........   
      
   That last one (Realtek RTL 8139) is your NIC. It's connected and *should* be   
   working.   
      
   >>If it says it's connected, but you can't get to any websites, then the   
   >>computer may be getting blocked by the router, which means you'll need to   
   >>login to the router itself (from your Win7 machine) and see if you can get   
   >>it working that way.   
   >   
   > This reply is from my W10 PC.   
   >   
   >>Or, you know, call Verizon's tech support and have them figure it out for   
   >>you.   
   >   
   > We hate each other, but I may have to.   
      
   I think you should.   
      
   >>On a side note, I think it's a bad idea to connect an XP machine to the   
   >>internet, especially one that hasn't had the most recent patches   
   >>installed. *Especially* if your grandson is a teenager, considering the   
   >>kind of sites he's likely to visit.   
   >   
   > He is.  Maybe W7.  This machine has had no patches of course.   
      
   I wouldn't put any newer version of Windows on that machine. Minimum for   
   Win7 and Win10 is 1GB RAM, and that will feel sluggish for either OS.   
      
   And, again, don't internet XP. One visit to the wrong kind of site and it'll   
   be a biohazard box.   
      
   >>(Personally, I'd find a Linux distro meant for low-end machines and   
   >>install that instead. And I'd max out the RAM on the machine, if you can   
   >>find any DDR RAM on the cheap. Maybe install a bigger hard drive, too.)   
   >   
   > I have drives and RAM.  It has 100GB drive and 1G Ram now I think.   I   
   > didn't want to open it up.  But maybe I'll have to.   
   > Thanks for your time + suggs.   
      
   Default install is only 256 MB RAM for that model. System Properties will   
   tell you how much RAM Windows thinks is installed. This page:   
      
     http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/compatible-upgrade-for/eMachines/t3104   
      
   ...says that machine maxes out at 2GB. (Don't buy from them if you already   
   have RAM that will work in that machine.)   
      
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