XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.microsoft.windows, alt.c   
   mp.os.windows-8   
   XPost: alt.windows7.general, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general   
   From: ithinkiam@gmail.com   
      
   Sailfish  wrote:   
   > Chris graced us with on 6/19/2021 3:57 AM:   
   >> Sailfish  wrote:   
   >>> Chris graced us with on 6/18/2021 5:57 AM:   
   >>>> On 17/06/2021 19:04, Sailfish wrote:   
   >>>>> Eric Stevens graced us with on 6/16/2021 5:04 PM:   
   >>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 18:30:00 +0000, ? Good Guy ?   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Is that all? Who thinks that's worth waiting for?   
   >>>>> So far, it appears to be mostly the GUI, with the underlying   
   >>>>> apps/programs/control panel applets/ &c still being an unglodly mix of   
   >>>>> Win10+Win8+Win7, ..., XP   
   >>>> Did you expect anything else?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Windows hasn't fundamentally changed since Windows 7. It's all just a   
   >>>> skinning exercise so that the vendors can sell more hardware which   
   >>>> supports the 'new' windows.   
   >>> Actually, yes, and it still might happen since this is an early look-see   
   >>> at just the current GUI update direction and not the foundational   
   >>> changes.   
   >>   
   >> What foundational changes would you like?   
   >>   
   > Well, I'll consider wishes are like fishes and dare to hope.   
   >   
   > 1. Bring back Aero, in all it's previous glory (transparency,   
   > skeuomorphic icons, rounded windows corners, transparency, &c.) I don't   
   > mind if they farm it out, as long as they open the architecture APIs   
   > that would allow 3rd parties to replicate it fully.   
   >   
   > 2. Make changes that would allow Win7 users and 3rd party developers to   
   > create apps for its 30% cut store AND create the same programs access to   
   > the APIs neccessary to allow them to be sold without going through the   
   > 30% Microsoft tax.   
   >   
   > 3. Provide less obscure access for power users rather than obfuscating   
   > them as they now do on Win10.   
   >   
   > There are others but this would be enough for me to seriously consider   
   > upgrading.   
   >   
   >>> What I suspect is that they will make significant   
   >>> infrastructure changes that will put everything behind a pay wall, just   
   >>> like Apple, disallowing sideloading of non- Windows Store software.   
   >>   
   >> Apple haven't done anything like the sort.   
   >>   
   > Yes, they have with iOS devices.   
      
   This is a windows discussion so why are bringing in a mobile OS?   
      
   macOS has no pay wall for software.   
      
   >> There's no doubt that the app stores are a great way for   
   >> google/apple/microsoft to make money, but there are often alternatives.   
   >>   
   > Often not. Ever found a browser option that isn't based on webkit?   
      
   What's that got to do with app stores? But anyway I use firefox. It uses   
   gecko.   
      
   > Or   
   > are you hinting at *Nix solutions? Even Microsoft has given up the ghost   
   > with trident and gone with webkit for Edge.   
   >   
      
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