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   J. P. Gilliver to daniel47@nomail.afraid.org   
   Re: Windows 32-bit   
   19 Nov 23 12:58:50   
   
   XPost: comp.os.ms-windows.misc, alt.windows7.general, microsoft.   
   ublic.windowsxp.general   
   From: G6JPG@255soft.uk   
      
   In message  at Sun, 19 Nov 2023 23:01:11,   
   Daniel65  writes   
   >John Hall wrote on 19/11/23 7:55 pm:   
   >> In message , Char   
   >> Jackson  writes   
   []   
   >>>>  I often see references to 12 AM and 12 PM, and I'm sometimes left   
   >>>> uncertain as to whether noon or midnight was meant. Use of the   
   >>>> 24-hour clock (or simply using the words "noon" and "midnight")   
   >>>> avoids any ambiguity.   
   >>>  I don't think I've ever met anyone (until now?) who found 12 AM   
   >>> and 12 PM to be ambiguous. Interesting.   
   >>  AM stands for "ante meridiem" and PM for "post meridiem", i.e.   
   >> before and after midday respectively. But 12 noon is neither before   
   >> nor after, so logically it should be 12 M.   
   >   
   >Don't you just hate it when someone applies LOGIC to an argument?? ;-P   
      
   I love "12 M"! At least, for those who insist on using AM/PM anyway,   
   it's an excellent solution. (But ...   
   >   
   >> Midnight is both 12 hours before and 12 hours post, but I suppose it   
   >> would be more logical to call it 12 PM (or maybe 0 AM).   
      
   ... that is a problem. When AM/PM was/were "invented", maybe people   
   weren't up at midnight so much. [What's Latin for midnight? Let me try   
   Google translate ... hmm, it just says media nocte, not a single word. I   
   suppose 12 MN would work ...])   
   --   
   J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf   
      
   Back then, many radio sets were still in black and white. - Eddie Mair, radio   
   presenter, on "PM" programme reaching 40; in Radio Times, 3-9 April 2010   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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