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|    Re: Reloading a changed a wordpad docume    |
|    26 Mar 24 21:19:59    |
   
   XPost: alt.windows7.general   
   From: address@is.invalid   
      
   J. P. ,   
      
   >>It also attracts a number of people who have no problem replacing   
   >>my question with what they decide I /really/ wanted to know   
   ...   
   > Yes, I've noticed that! (The ones who suggested you get the generating   
   > prog. to create time-stamped versions haven't grasped what you want to   
   > do/happen.)   
      
   No, I've really gotten people who told me in my face that what I asked was   
   not what I wanted to know, and my /actual/ question was {blah, blah, blah}.   
      
   Paul, just like Char, didn't know the answer to my question (quite possible   
   there isn't one), skipped it and sought a possible other approach. Which   
   works for most situations/askers.   
      
   Newyana2 is leaning towards trying to find a meta question (dragnetting).   
   Which, to me, isn't there.   
      
   (and yes, I know that I'm stepping onto some toes there. Sorry about that.)   
      
   >>Is there a commandline switch to override that behaviour and either open   
   >>the   
   >>document in a new window, or (preferrably) re-load the document.   
   > []   
   > I suspect there isn't, for two reasons:   
      
   Do you know that you're the first one who actually adresses my question ?   
   :-)   
      
   > 1. (As some have pointed out) WordPad is an editor, not just a viewer (i.   
   > e. has the ability to write); this may be the root of some of the   
   > problems.   
      
   problems like ... what ?   
      
   And do notice that its current behaviour has its own problem : If the   
   document has been recreated it is (very) easy to overwrite it with the old   
   contents still present in wordpad.   
      
   > (The fact that the generating prog. _can_ create a new version while   
   > WordPad has it open is slightly surprising.)   
      
   No, not really. If wordpad can load the whole document than there is no   
   reason to keep the file open - other than create a write (and read?) lock.   
      
   > 2. WordPad would have to _know_ that a new version has been created, and   
   > load it automatically.   
      
   No, that (automatically) is not what I asked (having a document change under   
   your fingers while you're typing in it ? Yuck!). It only should happen   
   when tell it to do so.   
      
   > Or are you saying that you'd be willing top open it manually, when you   
   > know the other software has created a new version of the file, but you'd   
   > rather not have to close it first?   
      
   Done manually or thru launching the document should not make a difference.   
   But my question was about me double-clicking the newly-generated document,   
   so lets keep it at that.   
      
   You know, having to close the old document first before being allowed to   
   open the (same named) new one would not even be that much of a problem to   
   me. What is is that currently wordpad brings the old document to top when I   
   double-click the new document - and doesn't tell a soul about it not being   
   the new document. :-(   
      
   And thats just *begging* me to continue using the old while thinking its the   
   new data - with the non-zero chance that I overwrite the new data with the   
   (edited) old data.   
      
   IOW, I'm effectivily trying to fix an UI problem.   
      
   Regards,   
   Rudy Wieser   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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