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   R.Wieser to All   
   Re: NNTP - how to check for removed news   
   12 Jul 24 22:43:59   
   
   XPost: alt.windows7.general   
   From: address@is.invalid   
      
   Auric__,   
      
      
   >> Simple question : using the NNTP protocol - How do I check for   
   >> newsgroups that have been removed ?   
      
   > There isn't a method defined in any RFC to do so,   
      
   I didn't see one either.  Doesn't mean I could not have overlooked the   
   specific RFC and the appropriate command in it.   Hence my question.   
      
   > because there are a number  of hurdles that make it infeasible:   
      
   "infeasible" ?  I beg to disagree.   
      
   > - *WHO* decides what groups to include on that list?   
      
   Who decides which groups to include in the "new newsgroups" list?   
      
   > - How far back do you want to go/removed since *WHEN*?   
      
   Thats the same problem as for the "new newsgroups" list.  Maybe use the same   
   method ?   
      
   > - For each user, the server would need to remember the last time that user   
   >  checked the groups, and what groups have been removed since then. *WHERE*   
   >  does the server store this information?   
      
   As the "new newsgroups" list doesn't suffer any such problems I do not see   
   why an "old newsgroups" should suffer them.   
      
   > - *WHY* would the server retain information it has already removed?   
      
   For the same reason it retains information about which "new" newsgroups it   
   has ?   
      
   > The *only* method to do this is using the "LIST" command.   
      
   Nope.  I already mentioned another one in the initial post.   
      
   But now you mention it, that LIST command can also be used to find any new   
   newsgroups.  But they still implemented a seperate command for it.  Why ?   
      
   > Alternately, you could send the "CAPABILITIES" command and see what   
   > the server returns. Maybe your chosen server has a method to do what   
   > you want. (Don't count on it.)   
      
   :-) "Don't count on it" :-)   
      
   Regards,   
   Rudy Wieser   
      
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