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   Brock McNuggets to All   
   Re: Windows 10 end of life is pushing us   
   19 Nov 25 07:03:32   
   
   XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com   
      
   On Nov 18, 2025 at 11:12:23 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote   
   <10fjn47$224n8$2@dont-email.me>:   
      
   > On 19 Nov 2025 05:37:18 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Nov 18, 2025 at 4:38:18 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote   
   >> <10fj01a$1tbb7$1@dont-email.me>:   
   >>   
   >>> On 18 Nov 2025 22:45:19 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> But with the ones that are "like" macOS, they really aren't.   
   >>>   
   >>> So that list you offered was worthless, wasn’t it?   
   >>   
   >> I would not have much interest ...   
   >   
   > But you were the one who went to try to find a list of Linux distros   
   > that look like MacOS. Why, if you didn’t actually have “much interest”   
   > in the issue? And why now claim that the list wasn’t such a list after   
   > all?   
      
   It was a response to this comment:   
      
       ChromeOS is actual Linux, MacOS is a Linux-wannabe.   
      
   I noted the efforts to make Linux look like macOS. That's it. A few second   
   search.   
      
   >> -- why work to make Linux be like macOS (especially when it can't be   
   >> any more than macOS can be Linux) ...   
   >   
   > macOS is just a look.   
      
   Incorrect. If that was so, then it would have ceased being macOS with 26 --   
   the look just changed (though not dramatically).   
      
   > Linux doesn’t define any look, which is why it   
   > can offer GUI environments that look like macOS, or Windows, or   
   > anything else.   
      
   Look like -- but not behave like. To me behavior is more important (though   
   looks are not to be ignored fully).   
      
   > Beauty is only skin-deep: what makes Linux Linux   
   > goes deeper than it does with macOS or Windows.   
      
   Not sure what you mean by this. macOS is macOS from the GUI down to the core.   
   Windows works the same way. Both have apps running on top. Linux, I suppose,   
   is different -- it's Linux at the kernel level, with various layers added on   
   top, which is why we usually call them GNU/Linux or "desktop Linux   
   distributions." I’m not too concerned about the semantics, but if you want to   
   say which goes "deeper", I suppose Linux "loses" the depth "contest" in that   
   they all go the same depth but Windows and macOS go all the way to the GUI --   
   but it is a meaningless contest.   
      
   >>>> When I use apps on Linux and Windows I often feel like I am using   
   >>>> apps designed for the lowest common denominator.   
   >>>   
   >>> Do you feel like apps with Python extensibility APIs are “designed for   
   >>> the lowest common denominator”?   
   >>   
   >> I am not a developer and know little of Python. I meant more   
   >> consumer focused apps.   
   >   
   > But not somehow “lowest common denominator” consumers? Somehow part of   
   > the great unwashed, yet not part of the great unwashed, at the same   
   > time?   
      
   I think you misunderstand what I said. I noted features which I appreciate on   
   macOS which are lacking on Windows and Linux. When I run apps on those two   
   there are few features unique to the platforms (or few I see, I am open to   
   being educated on features I have missed).   
      
   With macOS I appreciate the user-focused efficiency. With Linux I appreciate   
   the hardware-focused efficiency.   
      
   >   
   >> With this apps, how do they compare on Linux, Windows, and macOS? Do   
   >> they tap into the macOS features I have spoken of (and list again   
   >> below)?   
   >   
   > Maybe nobody outside the macOS world cares about such things.   
      
   Few would even know of them -- but I think many would appreciate benefits to   
   user-efficiency, much as many would appreciate hardware-based efficiency.   
      
   > Meanwhile, looks like Apple is looking to offer lower-cost Macs to try   
   > to boost its sagging market share.   
   >   
   > (We’ve been down this road before ...)   
      
   With the likelihood the economy is going to crash hard in the not distant   
   future I can absolutely understand their desire to make lower cost devices.   
   Add to that the growth of ChromeOS... the market is changing. I would guess   
   such a machine would be marketed to compete (largely education).   
      
   As far as sales, Apple sold more Macs in 2025 than in 2024... something like   
   10% more. I think. Would have to dig into stats and it is late here.   
      
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