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|    J. P. Gilliver to All    |
|    Re: Windows 10 end of life is pushing us    |
|    19 Nov 25 21:30:26    |
      XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11       From: G6JPG@255soft.uk              On 2025/11/19 20:20:51, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:       > J. P. Gilliver wrote on 11/18/2025 5:37 PM:       >> On 2025/11/18 18:18:7, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:              []              >>> Movie DVD's have been available in two flavors       >>> DVD9 - dual layer which provides 8.5 GB       >>> DVD5 - single layer, 4.7GB       >>>       >>> Not all dual layer DVDs are DVD9; all DVD9 are dual layer       >>>       >>> Non-movie DVDs are also dual layer DVD+R DL or DVD-R DL       >>>       >>>       >> Interesting that it's not 2×4.7=9.4. Why not?       >>       >> (Presumably the ones that are DVD5 are just movies that are short enough       >> to fit in/on a single layer. What duration corresponds to that?)       >>       >       > Physical limitations       > DVD9 single-sided with two layers on one side of the disk       > - second layer is read by focusing the laser through the       > semi-transparent first layer. To reliabily accomplish the data pits(where       > the data is stored)) on both layers are longer, and the track pitch(space       > between the tracks storing data) wider.       > i.e. use more space for data, use more space between data = less       > storage capacity              Ah, understood - so to make it possible to both read through and be       readable-through, they use a lower density (in both directions). that       explains why only 8.5.              >       How long was/is the maximum for DVD5?              >       > Unlike DVD10 (9.4GB) Double-sided single layer on each side, 4.7GB per       > side, requires flipping the disk.       >       Which (for that reason) presumably wasn't common; I don't think I've       ever seen one. Only used for very long movies?              >       _Was_ (is?) there a double sided, double layer variant (DVD11 maybe)? Or       were (are) that-long movies just usually supplied on two discs?              >       (What were DVDs 1-4 and 6-8?)              >       --       J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf              cookery seems to be the new sex. - Michael Buerk in RT, 2017/1/21-27              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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