XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com   
      
   On Nov 19, 2025 at 8:19:13 PM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote   
   :   
      
   > On 11/19/25 9:46 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:   
   >> On Nov 19, 2025 at 7:24:00 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote   
   >> <10flu3v$2lsr1$1@dont-email.me>:   
   >>> On 20 Nov 2025 01:33:27 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> And the Linux layer on macOS isn't an admission of weakness. Windows   
   >>>> needed WSL2 because it lacked a UNIX-like environment. macOS already   
   >>>> has one. Apple added a Linux option because developers want   
   >>>> consistent tooling across platforms, and this makes macOS stronger.   
   >>>   
   >>> Windows needed WSL (1 and 2) because it lacked a Linux-like   
   >>> environment.   
   >>>   
   >>> macOS is the same. “Unix” is not what matters any more; now it’s very   
   >>> specifically “Linux”.   
   >>   
   >> I do not share your black and white world view. All can matter. By the   
   nature   
   >> of open source, Apple and MS can include Linux... and that is good for   
   >> everyone. Not sure why you would want to turn it into a pissing contest.   
   >>   
   >> If anything, though, if you want to do so, it means Linux is "just" Linux.   
   It   
   >> lacks macOS and Windows... but Windows and macOS are not just what they are,   
   >> they also include Linux, and makes them more than Linux itself. Which is   
   >> better... something that offers less or something that offers a superset of   
   >> that less (more). I will go with more.   
   >   
   > Using Windows or macOS for their Linux subsystems would be inferior to   
   > booting Linux directly.   
      
   It would have pros and cons. Sure. But if there were no pros people would just   
   reboot into Linux.   
      
   > It's not a superset unless it replicates every   
   > aspect of what one would have running Linux itself.   
      
   OK, that is fair. It is just a part of (desktop) Linux.   
      
   > In fact, I would   
   > say the sense in which Win11 is a superset of Linux is why I don't like   
   > it, it's too weighty, too unwieldy compared to Linux.   
      
   Use what you like. Of course. You will never see me pushing you otherwise or   
   saying you are wrong (or foolish, or whatever negative thing you want to plop   
   here).   
      
      
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   you.   
      
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