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   Brock McNuggets to All   
   Re: Windows 10 end of life is pushing us   
   20 Nov 25 20:44:31   
   
   XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com   
      
   On Nov 20, 2025 at 1:15:34 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote   
   <10fnst6$36q3t$1@dont-email.me>:   
      
   > On 20 Nov 2025 15:26:00 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:   
   >   
   >> WSL1 made sense for Windows because Windows had no real POSIX layer   
   >> to protect, so Microsoft could bolt on a syscall-translation shim   
   >> without breaking anything.   
   >   
   > That’s a pretty lame description, let’s face it.   
      
   Go on.   
      
   >   
   >> macOS is in a different situation. Its BSD/Mach stack and POSIX APIs   
   >> are used all over the system. Trying to bolt Linux syscalls and   
   >> semantics onto that -- with Linux's interface differences, device   
   >> models, virtual file system, event notification system, namespaces,   
   >> and so on -- isn't a "minor difference," and it would risk breaking   
   >> actual macOS software.   
   >   
   > No it wouldn’t. Think of how BSDs are able to offer Linux   
   > compatibility; macOS is supposedly derived from BSD, isn’t it? So why   
   > can’t it do the same?   
      
       Trying to bolt Linux syscalls and semantics onto that -- with   
       Linux's interface differences, device models, virtual file   
       system, event notification system, namespaces, and so on --   
       isn't a "minor difference," and it would risk breaking   
       actual macOS software.   
      
   Remember, while macOS is absolutely tied to BSD, it is not BSD.   
      
   >> And yes, Apple (and MS) pulling in open source pieces to do that is   
   >> completely normal.   
   >   
   > The market leader doesn’t need to pay attention to compatibility with   
   > also-ran competitors: it does the leading, they do the following, not   
   > the other way round.   
      
   Not sure you understand what open source is. Both Apple and MS use a lot of it   
   and that is fine. There are no limits to them using it, and the fact they do   
   is a good thing for the open source world.   
      
   > The fact that both Microsoft and Apple feel the need to pay a great   
   > deal of attention to Linux compatibility shows that they are no longer   
   > the market leaders; they are now having to follow where Linux is   
   > leading.   
      
   What makes you think this?   
      
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   you.   
      
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