From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-11-25 13:04, Daniel70 wrote:   
   > On 25/11/2025 10:41 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >> On 2025-11-25 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:   
   >>> On 25/11/2025 6:36 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>>> On 2025-10-08 13:16, Daniel70 wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>    
   >>>   
   >>>>> Similarly, here in Victoria, if you take your TEST in an Automatic   
   >>>>> car,   
   >>>>> you are licenced to drive an Automatic car .... at least initially.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Our licences are for Ten years. I think, at the end of that ten years,   
   >>>>> you are deemed to be competent to drive either a Manual or Automatic   
   >>>>> car, so can drive either.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> They expect you to magically learn? :-)   
   >>>>   
   >>> Well, experience HAS to count for something, surely. ;-)   
   >>   
   >> Sure, but the smooth handling of the gears and clutch is not an   
   >> automatic skill. And Spain is a very hilly country. Imagine parking on   
   >> a steep slope.   
   >>   
   > O.K., so you start with parking on a gentle slope .... and then build up.   
      
   Rather not! :-D   
      
   You start by starting and stopping in an empty street or parking lot,   
   then by changing gears, and the last thing, then starting and stopping   
   in slopes, and finally, parking in slopes without hitting the next car.   
   Modern cars have slope assist, but in mine it doesn't work. Or needs a   
   steep slope to trigger.   
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
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