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   From: ithinkiam@gmail.com   
      
   Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   > On 2025-12-02 15:11, Chris wrote:   
   >> wasbit wrote:   
   >>> On 01/12/2025 18:04, Chris wrote:   
   >>>> wasbit wrote:   
   >>>>> On 28/11/2025 19:03, Paul wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Fri, 11/28/2025 3:47 AM, wasbit wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 26/11/2025 13:55, micky wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> OT?? if I'm using someone else's wifi, can he tell what's in email I'm   
   >>>>>>>> sending or receiving, can he tell what I'm sending or receiving on the   
   >>>>>>>> web, or what I'm sending or receiving here on Usenet?. I would   
   think   
   >>>>>>>> not but just want to be sure. He's a smart guy but no tech   
   genius   
   >>>>>>>> afaik. If he were a tech wiz, could he do it?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> My wifi has been giving me trouble since February, and last night on   
   the   
   >>>>>>>> upstairs computer, the cable internet would not work either. The   
   >>>>>>>> Troubleshooter said the cable wasn't in, and indeed, I had sometimes   
   >>>>>>>> gotten success by pushing it in further, a millimeter, but that didn't   
   >>>>>>>> work last night. Even though the Verizon FIOS fiberoptic phone was   
   >>>>>>>> working and the Verizon box has a flashing led for the cable that goes   
   >>>>>>>> to my computer.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> This morning I rebooted and on its own, it connected to the wifi of a   
   >>>>>>>> neighbor, but not to my own wifi Hmmm after 30 minutes of using   
   his,   
   >>>>>>>> it just switched to my wifi. But still not to the cable, which I   
   >>>>>>>> thought would take priority, plusd last night the Troubleshooter said   
   my   
   >>>>>>>> laptop's wifi was bad too, the one that hasn't worked since February.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Hmmm! 19 replies & not a mention of bandwidth theft.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> It seems to be mostly a tale about semi-broken or half-functional kit.   
   >>>>>> Since the OP has his own paid Internet service, there is no   
   >>>>>> evidence of "100% leeching" going on, particularly. I bet the   
   >>>>>> OP could tighten up his settings a bit.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The OP knows he has connected to the neighbour's wifi but said nothing   
   >>>>> about having permission.   
   >>>>> Until clarified it is bandwidth theft.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Theft requires that someone is deprived of something. Given every   
   broadband   
   >>>> connection is unlimited there is no "deprivation".   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Using something without paying for it is potentially fraud, however.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Every broadband connection is NOT unlimited.   
   >>> Mine is currently 200GB per calendar month, which was 60GB then 100GB.   
   >>   
   >> You're the exception rather than the rule.   
   >   
   > Depends. Spain has a very deep fibre coverage, but there are rural areas   
   > without. If you have to depend on a router with a SIM card,   
      
   That's not broadband in my book. It's mobile data.   
      
   > many   
   > providers limit the downloads per month. Even if you contract a   
   > limitless connection, in actual practice they have limits, and may   
   > severe your connection if you download movies every day.   
      
   None of this is relevant to a neighbour accidentally connecting to your   
   wifi. My point is there is no theft as there's no deprivation of internet   
   access.   
      
   > I had a beach residence with such a connection. Land line copper   
   > connection had been available, till the entire copper network was   
   > decommissioned, and they did not deploy fibre to every place that had   
   > copper previously. Just 200 meters away.   
      
   Like I said. That's an exception.   
      
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