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   Message 195,934 of 197,671   
   Carlos E.R. to Chris   
   Re: OT? Can my neiighbor, whose wifi I'm   
   03 Dec 25 14:02:06   
   
   XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-12-02 23:23, Chris wrote:   
   > Carlos E.R.  wrote:   
   >> On 2025-12-02 15:11, Chris wrote:   
   >>> wasbit  wrote:   
   >>>> On 01/12/2025 18:04, Chris wrote:   
   >>>>> wasbit  wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 28/11/2025 19:03, Paul wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Fri, 11/28/2025 3:47 AM, wasbit wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 26/11/2025 13:55, micky wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> OT?? if I'm using someone else's wifi, can he tell what's in email   
   I'm   
   >>>>>>>>> sending or receiving, can he tell what I'm sending or receiving on   
   the   
   >>>>>>>>> web, or what I'm sending or receiving here on Usenet?.   I would   
   think   
   >>>>>>>>> not but just want to be sure.    He's a smart guy but no tech   
   genius   
   >>>>>>>>> afaik.  If he were a tech wiz, could he do it?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> My wifi has been giving me trouble since February, and last night on   
   the   
   >>>>>>>>> upstairs computer, the cable internet would not work either.  The   
   >>>>>>>>> Troubleshooter said the cable wasn't in, and indeed, I had sometimes   
   >>>>>>>>> gotten success by pushing it in further, a millimeter, but that   
   didn't   
   >>>>>>>>> work last night.   Even though the Verizon FIOS fiberoptic phone   
   was   
   >>>>>>>>> working and the Verizon box has a flashing led for the cable that   
   goes   
   >>>>>>>>> to my computer.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> This morning I rebooted and on its own, it connected to the wifi of a   
   >>>>>>>>> neighbor, but not to my own wifi   Hmmm after 30 minutes of using   
   his,   
   >>>>>>>>> it just switched to my wifi.  But still not to the cable, which I   
   >>>>>>>>> thought would take priority, plusd last night the Troubleshooter   
   said my   
   >>>>>>>>> laptop's wifi was bad too, the one that hasn't worked since February.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Hmmm! 19 replies & not a mention of bandwidth theft.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> It seems to be mostly a tale about semi-broken or half-functional kit.   
   >>>>>>> Since the OP has his own paid Internet service, there is no   
   >>>>>>> evidence of "100% leeching" going on, particularly. I bet the   
   >>>>>>> OP could tighten up his settings a bit.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The OP knows he has connected to the neighbour's wifi but said nothing   
   >>>>>> about having permission.   
   >>>>>> Until clarified it is bandwidth theft.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Theft requires that someone is deprived of something. Given every   
   broadband   
   >>>>> connection is unlimited there is no "deprivation".   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Using something without paying for it is potentially fraud, however.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Every broadband connection is NOT unlimited.   
   >>>> Mine is currently 200GB per calendar month, which was 60GB then 100GB.   
   >>>   
   >>> You're the exception rather than the rule.   
   >>   
   >> Depends. Spain has a very deep fibre coverage, but there are rural areas   
   >> without. If you have to depend on a router with a SIM card,   
   >   
   > That's not broadband in my book. It's mobile data.   
      
   It is the mobile network, but used with fixed hardware. A router with a SIM.   
      
      
   >   
   >> many   
   >> providers limit the downloads per month. Even if you contract a   
   >> limitless connection, in actual practice they have limits, and may   
   >> severe your connection if you download movies every day.   
   >   
   > None of this is relevant to a neighbour accidentally connecting to your   
   > wifi. My point is there is no theft as there's no deprivation of internet   
   > access.   
      
   They use the limited bandwidth per month of the connection. The user   
   might find that his connection ends early and doesn't have internet on   
   day 20.   
      
   >   
   >> I had a beach residence with such a connection. Land line copper   
   >> connection had been available, till the entire copper network was   
   >> decommissioned, and they did not deploy fibre to every place that had   
   >> copper previously. Just 200 meters away.   
   >   
   > Like I said. That's an exception.   
      
   Not an exception, there are many thousand people that have to use that   
   service because there is no fibre or copper at their homes.   
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
   ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;   
      
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