From: r9jmg0@yahoo.com   
      
   On 25/12/02 07:52 PM, Paul wrote:   
   > On Tue, 12/2/2025 8:10 PM, John C. wrote:   
   >> On 25/12/01 11:22 AM, John K.Eason wrote:   
   >>> In article <10gk226$1als3$1@dont-email.me>, r9jmg0@yahoo.com (John C.)   
   wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> *From:* "John C."    
   >>>> *Date:* Mon, 1 Dec 2025 04:35:16 -0800   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Lately, I've been noticing an ongoing slowing down of Windows 10 on   
   >>>> my   
   >>>> computer. First it was getting the Desktop toolbar I use from the   
   >>>> Taskbar, then it was the Start Menu itself (I use Open Shell)   
   >>>> opening,   
   >>>> and now it's startup times for several programs that I use.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> After extensive discussion with Copilot, we narrowed it down to   
   >>>> KB5068781, which applied kernel level security fixes and Secure Boot   
   >>>> certificate updates. This could introduce extra checks during   
   >>>> executable   
   >>>> startup.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Anybody else noticed this?   
   >>>   
   >>> Nope. No slowdown at all and 'yes' I do have that update installed (18th of   
   >>> November) and I also use Open Shell. Not sure what you mean by the   
   "desktop toolbar"   
   >>> though.   
   >>>   
   >> If you right click on the taskbar, you'll see "Toolbars" at the top of   
   >> the resulting context menu. If you click on that, you'll see "Address",   
   >> "Links" and "Desktop". If you select "Desktop, that toolbar will appear   
   >> in the task bar and clicking on it will shoe a list of any desktop   
   >> shortcuts you have set up.   
   >>   
   >   
   > That seems to be responding normally here. Click on the >> and the menu   
   appears instantly.   
   >   
   >                      >>   
   >              Desktop   
   >   
   > And that is on Win10 patched up to date (all in-band updates,   
   > don't know about any that are to be installed outside of   
   > Windows Update). Win10 Pro 19045.6466   
      
   The issue with the Start Menu is a well known problem with users who,   
   like me, are using Open Shell. There is discussion of this topic here:   
      
   https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu/issues/2306   
      
   A slow opening of the Desktop Toolbar, which I use, seems to have been   
   possible to deal with if I turned off Windows Security Real-Time   
   Protection. Can't remember for sure though.   
      
   The main issue I'm having is a pronounced delay now when opening almost   
   any program. Once the program begins loading though, from that point on   
   there is no speed difference.   
      
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