XPost: alt.computer.workshop, alt.windows7.general   
   From: G6JPG@255soft.uk   
      
   On 2025/12/25 0:22:37, Schugo wrote:   
   > On 25.12.2025 01:04, % wrote:   
   >> Brock McNuggets wrote:   
   >>> On Dec 24, 2025 at 12:15:52 PM MST, ""J. P. Gilliver"" wrote   
   >>> <10ihe58$nis2$9@dont-email.me>:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2025/12/24 17:4:43, VanguardLH wrote:   
   >>>>> "J. P. Gilliver"  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> ... on some others I get the "please wait while we check you're a   
   >>>>>> human", or similar wording, from cloudflare, which then connects me   
   >>>>>> to those sites after a few seconds.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Those, even if only a checkbox you click, are looking for behaviors   
   >>>>> (events) exhibited by humans visiting a web site versus bots or web   
   >>>>> crawlers trying to harvest content, or zombied hosts attempting DDOS   
   >>>>> (Distributed Denial of Service) attacks.  The site assaults their good   
   >>>>> visitors with anti-bot/DDOS/webcrawl filtering.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Their CAPTCHA could be a simple checkbox you click, and they'll notice   
   >>>>> it takes you time to move your mouse to click on it versus a bot that   
   >>>>> instantly clicks on the checkbox.  Could be "match the tiles" on some   
   >>>>> common theme, like all tiles with bicycles, or you drag a tile to fill   
   >>>>> in a jigsaw picture, or you solve a math formula.  The site assaults you   
   >>>>> with interferrence trying to protect themself from bots, web crawlers,   
   >>>>> and DDOS (Distributed Denial of Service) attacks.  They're hoping to   
   >>>>> protect their site to keep it responsive to real visitors by   
   >>>>> interferring with accessing the site by bots, but it is interferrence to   
   >>>>> their good visitors, too.  In effect, it is a weak form of requiring all   
   >>>>> visitors to login before the site delivers its content.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Sometimes they're a "pick the pictures" (often with an American word,   
   >>>> like "crosswalk"), sometimes they're just a tickbox (where yes, they can   
   >>>> track your mouse); sometimes, they don't require you to do _anything_,   
   >>>> they just "decide" you're human after a few seconds. Not sure how they   
   >>>> can use your action - or lack thereof! - to decide how human you are.   
   >>>   
   >>> They look to see if you are moving the mouse pointer in a human-like way.   
      
   Yes, but I'm pretty sure I've been let in even if I deliberately don't   
   move it at all.   
      
   >>>   
   >> what a dirty trick   
   >   
   > IIRC some agentic AI browsers can already solve that CAPTCHA... LOL   
   >   
   > ciao..   
   >   
   I'd be most surprised if not. (Even without having the reason to bypass   
   it, if I was an AI programmer I'd just see it as a challenge.)   
      
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