XPost: alt.windows7.general   
   From: G6JPG@255soft.uk   
      
   On 2025/12/27 20:25:54, John Ali wrote:   
   > On 27/12/2025 16:23, J. P. Gilliver wrote:   
   >> Interesting; that says I'm with EE, in Bangor, Northern Ireland. (Rather   
   >> than PlusNet, wherever they are. [_I_  an actually in Kent.])   
   >   
   > EE runs the infrastructure for BT, which also owns Plusnet (i.e BT owns   
   > PlusNet).   
      
   Yes, when I made some enquiries about VoIP, they said that would be via   
   EE. I still have my landline, which is solid, but I guess they'll kill   
   that soon.   
   >   
   > As far as I am concerned, BT is now almost a non-entity. They recently   
   > wrote to inform me that they are discontinuing their BT Managed Websites   
      
   I never had webspace with PlusNet, but if I had had, that would have   
   been transferred to Greenby along with the email. PlusNet are obviously   
   going for being a pure broadband supplier - they turned off their usenet   
   a few months ago (which was just a relay of one of the big suppliers   
   anyway), they're not doing VoIP, and now they're outsourcing email and   
   webspace.   
      
   BT, in contrast, _are_ doing VoIP.   
      
   My broadband from PlusNet comes via my copper 'phone line, and all   
   indications are FTTP won't come to (possibly only 49% of) my exchange   
   any time soon. Though I half expect to suddenly be told that it is.   
      
   > service on Thursday, 11 December 2025. This is not the only issue. I   
   > have a BTConnect email account managed by Microsoft Outlook.com, but   
   > they don't allow IMAP or POP, so that account is useless to me too. I   
   > also had an email account on Talk21, which belonged to BT, but that was   
   > shut down a long time ago.   
   >   
   > The only thing BT now runs is Openreach, which builds internet cables   
   > for everyone in the UK. They have a monopoly on this because they charge   
   > other ISPs a fortune to use their cables.   
      
   I presume you mean that the other way round - they charge a fortune   
   because they have the monopoly.   
   >   
   > The landline business is now dead because you don't need a landline to   
   > get the internet, as everything is fibre optic. This means they have big   
   > boxes on the streets with Wi-Fi routers, so broadband service customers   
   > get Wi-Fi using special routers and Cat 5, 6 or 7 cables. I am now with   
   > Community Fibre, and I was amazed at how they connected me! If something   
   > goes wrong now, I have to call them because the cables are fixed firmly   
   > to the wall. The days of simply unplugging the cable are gone! The   
   > PlusNet website states:   
   >   
   >> Full Fibre is the next generation ultrafast broadband, which connects   
   straight to your home. There’s no copper cables or landline. It's 100% fibre   
   optic cables, full of speed and reliability.   
      
   (Not here yet.)   
      
   >>   
   >> Broadband without a landline   
   >> Flexible range of speeds   
   >> Supercharged by our Hub Two router   
      
   What might "Supercharged" mean!   
      
   >> 24 or 12 month contracts   
   >> Super for smart homes   
   >> Unlimited usage   
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   I will let you know.   
      
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