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   Windows location service - How does it c   
   13 Jan 26 06:53:20   
   
   From: V@nguard.LH   
      
   Windows 10 has its location service, but I'm wondering why enable it.   
   It was disabled, I tried enabling it, but it doesn't help finding my   
   location.  As a test, and after enabling location, I went to Google Maps   
   and entered a restaurant some 10 miles away.  When I clicked on   
   Directions to specify start and end locations, there was a circle icon   
   to "Use your location".  Clicked on that, and got a prompt "Google Maps   
   wants to use your location".  In permissions, location is set to Ask.  I   
   click "Just this time", but the starting point was way way off from   
   where I am.   
      
   Because my location was so far off, I have to wonder just how Microsoft   
   finds my location other than IP geolocation which doesn't require a site   
   to use Windows location services.  This is on a desktop PC.  No cellular   
   radio to connect to a tower.  No GPS radio.  Just how is Windows   
   location going to determine my location?  Doesn't seem it has anything   
   with which to determine my location other than by IP geolocation.   
      
   https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-location-ser   
   ice-and-privacy-3a8eee0a-5b0b-dc07-eede-2a5ca1c49088   
      
   Timezone.  Really?  That's going to track my location?  A dozen a-bombs   
   could land in the same timezone and never hit me.   
      
   Find my device.  Start -> Settings -> Update & Security -> Find my   
   device.  Other than IP geolocation, how is that going to work on desktop   
   PC with no cellular or GPS radios?   
      
   With location and find my device enabled, I go to:   
      
   https://account.microsoft.com/devices   
      
   which says "Unknown - Location data isn't available".   
      
   GPS. No GPS radio in my desktop PC.   
      
   Nearby wireless access points.  I have some wifi devices connected to my   
   wifi cable modem, but not my desktop PC.   
      
   Cell towers.  It's a desktop PC, not a smartphone.   
      
   IP address.  Yep, they can use that, but it highly inaccurate.  What a   
   site would see is the WAN-side IP address specified by my ISP's DHCP   
   server for the cable modem which uses a NAT router.  With Windows   
   location disabled, my IP address is still known. When I use several IP   
   geolocation sites, each gives a different location resulting in a span   
   of about a 15-mile radius, or an area of 706 square miles.   
      
   Some folks are paranoid about revealing their location to web sites that   
   want it for a service they provide, or to track them.  However, for a   
   desktop PC, there is no difference when Windows location is enabled, or   
   not.   
      
   Seems superfluous to waste CPU cycles on a feature that is ineffective,   
   so I disabled it again.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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