From: V@nguard.LH   
      
   Jim the Geordie  wrote:   
      
   > I usually use Betterbird as my default email client; with Opera on my   
   > mobile and Edge on my desktop as default browsers.   
   > I have used Outlook in the past and thought I would have alook at the   
   > latest version. On my mobile I loaded my domain account with no problem,   
   > but when I tried to install my Gmail account it said that I could ONLY   
   > use Chrome as my browser. When I tried to install my Gmail account on my   
   > desktop, it refused connection,so I assume that is the same reason.   
   > I assume Google don't want me to use Outlook, but in doing so they have   
   > finally put me off Chrome, which I never liked in th firstplace.   
      
   The latest version of Outlook.  That could be for Office 365, Office   
   2023 standalone, or new Outlook (yep, "new" is part of the product   
   name).  Microsoft is trying to change new Outlook to Outlook and Outlook   
   standalone to Outlook Classic.  Then there are the web apps at   
   Outlook.com, a web site, not a program, like Betterbird).   
      
   Assuming "Outlook" meant a standalone version of Outlook, I don't see   
   how any web browser - Opera, Edge, or Chrome - come into play.  Unlike   
   Thunderbird, and its Betterbird variant, Outlook Classic is not built   
   atop web browser code.   
      
   The only time web browsing comes into play that I can remember when   
   using Outlook Classic is to add an OAUTH2 server into an account defined   
   in Outlook Classic.  To get an OAUTH2 token requires granting your   
   e-mail client access to your e-mail account.  To check you have access,   
   the e-mail client loads the web browser to the webmail app page, and has   
   you login to prove it's you via your e-mail client that wants access.   
   If the login succeeds, the OAUTH2 server delivers the OAUTH2 tokens to   
   the e-mail client to store in its credentials cache.   
      
   Thunderbird and Betterbird contain Firefox code, so they can view HTML   
   content without having to load a separate instance of a web browser.   
   However, when creating OAUTH2 account, all e-mail clients have to use a   
   web browser to get to the webmail's login page to validate you are the   
   account owner by having you login there.  (Thunder|Better)bird can use   
   their own integral web browser.  Other e-mail clients, like Outlook   
   Classic, have to load a web browser.   
      
   In Edge, can you visit gmail.com?  Can you login okay?  If not, perhaps   
   you installed an extension into Edge that interferes with rendering the   
   web page, or block its resources, like an adblocker.  If you are using a   
   VPN that is always on, turn it off to retest.  Other than Windows   
   Defender, temporarily disable any 3rd-party anti-virus/malware software   
   you have running.  Try disabling any add-ons you installed in   
   Betterbird.  If you cannot login, could be Google wants to verify it is   
   you trying to gain access, so they send a login code to your recovery   
   methods you defined in your Gmail account (alternate e-mail, phone   
   number [that MUST be SMS capable to get texts since they don't do   
   robovoice calls anymore].  When in Gmail, or your Google account   
   settings, you can generate a slew of backup codes that you can enter to   
   prove it's you trying to get into a Gmail account.  After generating the   
   backup codes, and saving them somewhere, supposedly you can use one of   
   them (you get 10) to complete the login.  I've never had to use the   
   backup codes, but have needed to use my phone as a recovery method.   
      
   Despite all recovery methods you defined in your Google account, none of   
   them will work, because the web page you're presented when generating an   
   OAUTH2 token doesn't grant you recovery methods.  Use a web browser to   
   visit gmail.com, login, and do whatever the aholes want to complete the   
   login to finally get you into your Gmail account.  Then logout (not just   
   close a tab in the web browser, but use the sign out in the menu), and   
   attempt another login to check that you are not afflicted with yet   
   another security interruption.   
      
   By the way, I have Hotmail, Comcast (my ISP), and Gmail accounts define   
   in my Outlook [Classic] 2021 (part of Office 2021 Pro Plus standalone).   
   The only time it ever opens a web browser is: (1) When I elect to render   
   an e-mail in a web browser instead of inside of Outlook Classic; and,   
   (2) During the process to get OAUTH2 tokens.  Both use whatever is my   
   default web browser.  Used to be Firefox, but now Edge.  All 3 e-mail   
   accounts are in the same Outlook profile.  I only have 1 profile.   
      
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