From: winstonmvp@gmail.com   
      
   VanguardLH wrote on 1/14/2026 7:55 AM:   
   > Jim the Geordie  wrote:   
   >   
   >> I usually use Betterbird as my default email client; with Opera on my   
   >> mobile and Edge on my desktop as default browsers.   
   >> I have used Outlook in the past and thought I would have alook at the   
   >> latest version. On my mobile I loaded my domain account with no problem,   
   >> but when I tried to install my Gmail account it said that I could ONLY   
   >> use Chrome as my browser. When I tried to install my Gmail account on my   
   >> desktop, it refused connection,so I assume that is the same reason.   
   >> I assume Google don't want me to use Outlook, but in doing so they have   
   >> finally put me off Chrome, which I never liked in th firstplace.   
   >   
   > The latest version of Outlook.  That could be for Office 365, Office   
   > 2023 standalone, or new Outlook (yep, "new" is part of the product   
   > name).  Microsoft is trying to change new Outlook to Outlook and Outlook   
   > standalone to Outlook Classic.  Then there are the web apps at   
   > Outlook.com, a web site, not a program, like Betterbird).   
   >   
   > Assuming "Outlook" meant a standalone version of Outlook, I don't see   
   > how any web browser - Opera, Edge, or Chrome - come into play.  Unlike   
   > Thunderbird, and its Betterbird variant, Outlook Classic is not built   
   > atop web browser code.   
   >   
   > The only time web browsing comes into play that I can remember when   
   > using Outlook Classic is to add an OAUTH2 server into an account defined   
   > in Outlook Classic.  To get an OAUTH2 token requires granting your   
   > e-mail client access to your e-mail account.  To check you have access,   
   > the e-mail client loads the web browser to the webmail app page, and has   
   > you login to prove it's you via your e-mail client that wants access.   
   > If the login succeeds, the OAUTH2 server delivers the OAUTH2 tokens to   
   > the e-mail client to store in its credentials cache.   
   >   
   > Thunderbird and Betterbird contain Firefox code, so they can view HTML   
   > content without having to load a separate instance of a web browser.   
   > However, when creating OAUTH2 account, all e-mail clients have to use a   
   > web browser to get to the webmail's login page to validate you are the   
   > account owner by having you login there.  (Thunder|Better)bird can use   
   > their own integral web browser.  Other e-mail clients, like Outlook   
   > Classic, have to load a web browser.   
   >   
   > In Edge, can you visit gmail.com?  Can you login okay?  If not, perhaps   
   > you installed an extension into Edge that interferes with rendering the   
   > web page, or block its resources, like an adblocker.  If you are using a   
   > VPN that is always on, turn it off to retest.  Other than Windows   
   > Defender, temporarily disable any 3rd-party anti-virus/malware software   
   > you have running.  Try disabling any add-ons you installed in   
   > Betterbird.  If you cannot login, could be Google wants to verify it is   
   > you trying to gain access, so they send a login code to your recovery   
   > methods you defined in your Gmail account (alternate e-mail, phone   
   > number [that MUST be SMS capable to get texts since they don't do   
   > robovoice calls anymore].  When in Gmail, or your Google account   
   > settings, you can generate a slew of backup codes that you can enter to   
   > prove it's you trying to get into a Gmail account.  After generating the   
   > backup codes, and saving them somewhere, supposedly you can use one of   
   > them (you get 10) to complete the login.  I've never had to use the   
   > backup codes, but have needed to use my phone as a recovery method.   
   >   
   > Despite all recovery methods you defined in your Google account, none of   
   > them will work, because the web page you're presented when generating an   
   > OAUTH2 token doesn't grant you recovery methods.  Use a web browser to   
   > visit gmail.com, login, and do whatever the aholes want to complete the   
   > login to finally get you into your Gmail account.  Then logout (not just   
   > close a tab in the web browser, but use the sign out in the menu), and   
   > attempt another login to check that you are not afflicted with yet   
   > another security interruption.   
   >   
   > By the way, I have Hotmail, Comcast (my ISP), and Gmail accounts define   
   > in my Outlook [Classic] 2021 (part of Office 2021 Pro Plus standalone).   
   > The only time it ever opens a web browser is: (1) When I elect to render   
   > an e-mail in a web browser instead of inside of Outlook Classic; and,   
   > (2) During the process to get OAUTH2 tokens.  Both use whatever is my   
   > default web browser.  Used to be Firefox, but now Edge.  All 3 e-mail   
   > accounts are in the same Outlook profile.  I only have 1 profile.   
      
   The OP mentioned 'latest version' but has yet to specify the edition and   
   version(Calendar Year if perpetual or M365)   
      - Perpetual have a Calendar year designation   
      - M365 does, but different naming CY/MM found in File/Office   
   account/About (latest deployed is 2512 or 2601)   
      
   Also note....Outlook perpetual(2021 and later), Outlook(desktop included   
   in M365), and Outlook-New - W10/11 included email client) all support OAuth2.   
      
   GMail can be setup as POP3 in Outlook(M365)- app password is necessary   
      
      
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