XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11   
   From: winstonmvp@gmail.com   
      
   Jeff Barnett wrote on 1/24/2026 12:56 PM:   
   > On 1/24/2026 10:07 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:   
   >> Jeff Barnett wrote on 1/24/2026 9:07 AM:   
   >>> On 1/23/2026 12:44 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:   
   >>>> micky wrote on 1/22/2026 4:26 PM:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I suppose most of the readers of these newsgroups know that for a full   
   >>>>> start from scratch it's required to run Restart, instead of Shutdown   
   >>>>> followed by starting later.  Even though I only learned this a year ago   
   >>>>> and even though it's a bit counter-intuitive, you all know that, right,   
   >>>>> (because if you're running with Fast Startup*** shutdown saves the   
   >>>>> kernel and reuses it, but Restart never uses Fast Startup and it   
   >>>>> rebuilds the kernel, with new values if the values have changed).   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> But maybe you did not know that you can get the benefit of Restart and   
   >>>>> still turn your machine off if you press Shift while clicking on   
   >>>>> Shutdown.   How about that!!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If Hibernation (and by extension, Fast Startup) is disabled (e.g.,   
   >>>> via powercfg -h off), the "Shutdown" button functions as a full,   
   >>>> traditional shutdown - clears the system state(shuts down all   
   >>>> processes) and clears temp memory and powers Off. Subsequent Powering   
   >>>> on, re-initializes the o/s   
   >>>>   - which, incidentally is the same results as Shift-Shutdown.   
   >>>>   i.e. you don't need to the keystroke combo if Hibernation is disabled.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Restart(when Hiberation is disabled) does the exact same clearing but   
   >>>> instead of shutting down, powers the device back on and re-   
   >>>> initializes the o/s.   
   >>> I have Hibernation set to never in my power profile. However, I have   
   >>> an APC UPS that will hibernate the machine in case of an extended   
   >>> power outage; in other words, the APC software is able to work around   
   >>> that setting. Does this setup change anything said in this thread so far?   
   >>   
   >> Afaik, the UPS Hibernation feature requires enabling Windows hibernation.   
   >>   i.e. When a power outage occurs, the UPS has to communicate with   
   >> Windows and validate Windows hibernation state(enabled/disabled), if   
   >> enabled instruct Windows to hibernate, once done the UPS provides   
   >> backup battery power for the duration of its capability.   
   >>   
   >> Lacking Windows hibernation, the UPS only provides battery power for   
   >> the device(and Windows) for the duration of its backup battery capability.   
   >>    - no Windows hibernation   
   >   
   > I've not enabled hibernation (as said above) but the APC software seems   
   > to be able to do it anyway. Perhaps it changes the power profile when   
   > necessary. I remember one of the disk tester/diagnostic packages that   
   > turned sleep off when it was called and never bothered to restore it on   
   > its way out. So there is certainly some way to diddle the settings.   
      
   See Paul's response, that echo's my input.   
     => Hibernation needs to be enabled in Windows.   
      
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