XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11, misc.taxes   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2026-01-30 20:16, Paul wrote:   
   > On Thu, 1/29/2026 3:56 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >   
   >> I was saying this for Dennis (he is not happy about buying a new machine   
   every five years),   
   >> because it is a way of running W11 in a machine that doesn't have supported   
   hardware,   
   >> like no TPM. It will of course run slow.   
   >   
   > I wish we had better benchmarks for "slowness", just so we could   
   > identify factors that make it faster.   
   >   
   > Linux host-to-guest file I/O can manage 600MB/sec inside a VM.   
   >   
   > The Windows VMs seem to be lower than that, host-to-guest.   
   > It can be hard to tell if paravirtualization is being used   
   > when the hosting software has settings like "Default".   
   >   
   > On both Linux host (TMPFS) and Windows host (OSFMount), I can   
   > have a RAMDrive for the VM container to sit on. This does not   
   > do anything for I/O particularly, but it reduces the seek time   
   > to zero. It behaves more like an SSD, when all you own is a   
   > single slow HDD. But you need a lot of RAM to do that. And   
   > in the current RAMpocalypse I can't really advocate for this   
   > any more. When a Windows Guest boots and scans the shit out of C:   
   > you hardly notice.   
   >   
   > At one time, virtual machine file I/O was down   
   > around 1MB to 2MB/sec or so. And the graphics drew   
   > so slowly, you could see individual pixels getting   
   > painted row by row. To say it is slow today, it's   
   > nothing compared to how it was in early days. We were   
   > running x86 OS on top of a SPARC instruction set.   
   >   
   > A modern VM could have unaccelerated graphics. The driver   
   > is wrong or very wrong. The CPU takes up the slack (MESA   
   > is doing some of the work via software path).   
      
   My Vmware claims there is no 3D support from the host, but I can play 3D   
   games in Linux, like fgfs. I have AMD hardware and I did not install any   
   proprietary drivers.   
      
   >   
   > The Windows MBEC support can degrade performance on older   
   > than 10th gen CPUs. 8th gen CPUs sorta work. 4th gen CPUs   
   > some feature might be turned off.   
   >   
   > One virtualization product won't allow more than 2 cores. Silly.   
   >   
   > In a lot of these cases, there does not seem to be a lot of   
   > traction to fix it. You can use "PCI Passthru" to have a   
   > second GPU dedicated to the virtual machine, and then the   
   > driver is no longer driving virtual graphics, it is   
   > driving real graphics. The odds of that working are   
   > pretty close to zero :-) Just the fact my new computers   
   > don't have a PCI slot, rules out using my spare-dummy card   
   > for graphics.   
   >   
   > At some point, it's just better to say "screw it, I'm   
   > going physical" instead of virtual. And just install   
   > Windows 11 besides Windows 7, using Rufus for the boot   
   > stick preparation, and using the "Custom" install option,   
   > declare a 200GB partition and just slap it in.   
   >   
   > I'm averaging around a day each for these little projects,   
   > just to give some idea what sort of time allocation to expect.   
   > You might have a dozen tabs open in your browser, with recipes   
   > to "fix this or that". The AI can at least make you aware   
   > of stuff you need to fix, even if the recipes aren't complete.   
   >   
   > And Duckduckgo is turning out to be a better search than Google   
   > plague search.   
   >   
   > And where would I be if I didn't have two computers ?   
   > You can't be hardware poor and expect a quick result.   
   >   
   >     Paul   
      
   {chuckle}   
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
   ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;   
      
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