From: Man@the.keyboard   
      
   On Sun, 1 Feb 2026 21:37:58 +1100, Daniel70   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 1/02/2026 8:53 pm, John wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 21 Jan 2026 20:03:53 +1100, Daniel70   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>> On 21/01/2026 5:18 am, Maria Sophia wrote:   
   >>>> Peter Johnson wrote:   
   >>>>>> However, if you were wanting to protect your Data from so burglar   
   >>>>>>   .... then maybe!! (if you are a pessimist!!)   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> When a house near me was burgled a few years ago they weren't   
   >>>>> interested in consumer electronics, only jewellery. Which suggests   
   >>>>> that they knew there was jewellery present but that's another   
   >>>>> story. (I have a NAS in my hall, and suspect that in the event of   
   >>>>> burglary it would be ignored. (There are others backing it up   
   >>>>> elsehere in the house that are not so obvious.))   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I'm on the Apple and Android newsgroups where I deprecate the   
   >>>> marketing gimmicks of biometrics using the derogatory term that   
   >>>> people who live in the slums are who need to protect their devices   
   >>>> from their own family.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> As such, I haven't had a password or PIN on any device unless it   
   >>>> requires it, which as far as I know, only iOS requires you to have a   
   >>>> password to the mothership account (but you don't need to protect the   
   >>>> device itself).   
   >>>   
   >>> It intrigues me when I see someone who has to enter a Password on their   
   >>> Mobile Phone before they can use it.   
   >>>   
   >>> WHY??   
   >>>   
   >>> As long as YOU don't lose your mobile phone, WHY do you need to secure it??   
   >>>   
   >>> (I don't do Banking/Credit Card on my mobile phone so what would I lose   
   >>> if I lost it?? Photos!!)   
   >>   
   >> My sister once bricked her 'phone. She had valued photos on it. Her   
   >> carrier told her that they had a series of snapshots of her camera's   
   >> storage area backed up on their servers which could be dumped onto a   
   >> new 'phone, selectively or en masse.   
   >   
   >AH!! So Big Brother *IS* watching!!   
      
    Maybe. It depends on whether the UKlander government are willing (and   
   smart enough) to pay the companies for all of the data they slurp up.   
   Our medical and financial data, definitely but perhaps not all of the   
   images we make on those 'phones. That's a *lot* of data for UKGov to   
   store and to sort through just to jail people taking pictures of cops   
   beating up the obviously guilty.   
      
   >   
   >> I am not sure if that is a universal attribute of mobiles. Mine cost   
   >> twenty quids and doesn't have a camera. I only recently bought it   
   >> because UKland carriers told me that my decades old, £20 phone *with*   
   >> a camera would die when they switched off 3G. The SIM may work on 4/5G   
   >> but the machine itself can not.   
   >   
   >We "shut down" 3G about 2 maybe 3 years ago .... so that's how old my   
   >current Phone is. If I turn around, I can see my previous three mobiles   
   >in the Bookcase!!   
      
    "We" being the USAliens?   
      
    I watched a TV serial in which a "secret shagging 'phone" was a major   
   plot point and an indicator of the bad guy's obvious guilt. The cops   
   found out about it because he had a publicly  known 'phone and a   
   top-up card for one served by a different mobile communications   
   company. I thought that this was idiotic. I have two dead 'phones on   
   P.A.Y.G. that my wife used and at least one dead one that I used to   
   use as well as the 3G one that the companies decided to kill. Would   
   that mean I've got at least *four* "secret shagging 'phones"?   
      
    Not likely. I can just see the picture of me being unfaithful. The   
   wife, standing over me in an alley, saying something to the effect of:   
   "Bloody useless *MEN*! Get up and show me how to reload this thing."   
      
      
      
   >   
   >>   Neither of those 'phones has any security whatsoever.   
   >>   
   >>   Apart from them being in my coat pocket.   
   >>   
   >>>> Of course, I practice good computer hygiene, so I don't have anything   
   >>>> on my devices that a burglar could use against me,   
   >>>   
   >>> Yeap!   
   >>>   
   >>>> which means my medical and financial records are in a Veracrypt   
   >>>> encrypted volume while my passwords are in KeepassXC on Windows (with   
   >>>> compatible apps for them on Android).   
   >>>   
   >>> Too Hi-Tech for me. ;-P   
   >>   
   >> Yeah, best to let your G.P. and clinics sell your data to a variety   
   >> of commercial entities and ultimately to Apple, Microsoft and Meta.   
   >   
   >I'm P.O.ed when, moments after speaking to my Doctor's receptionist to   
   >make an appointment, I get a SMS from some third party service telling   
   >me I have an upcoming Doctor's appointment.   
      
    I don't get that sort of annoyance. I never told them what the number   
   of my 3G 'phone was.   
      
    I never told *anyone* commercialised. Which pissed off a seller of   
   electrical gear, once. They couldn't fill in the web-page based sales   
   receipt on their till because the space for "mobile number" wouldn't   
   validate. There was no way round the problem. No way to tell the   
   stupid page that this customer didn't *have* one. The sales-robot   
   eventually had a manager sort of hack the system for me.   
      
    Last December, my G.P. spent 20 minutes out of an appointment trying   
   to explain to me how wonderful mobile 'phones were and how I could get   
   one for only £20-30 per month.   
      
    I just looked back at him blankly.   
      
      
      
   >   
   >I do!! REALLY??   
   >   
   >And 'they' want me to register with that SMS Service!! Pigs ARSE!!   
      
    That's moot. They have you on the system because your kindly, old   
   Doc' has sold your medical records to them. Those and those of anyone   
   connected to you and those of everyone else whom they treat. That's   
   what makes them all "medically confidential", "private" and "secure".   
   >   
   >> Those guys keep *everything* and they keep it *forever*. You know that   
   >> your data is secure and safe with them.   
   >>   
   >> UKland, where our Government *protects* our valued, private,   
   >> confidential data really, really well so we don't need to.   
   >   
   >And we ALL know ... Security is OH SO SECURE!!   
      
    Well, *I* am not going to hack your records. I don't give a fuck what   
   childhood ickiness you suffered from and I have no interest in any of   
   your present rashes. I get way too much information from all of the   
   little, old women on the local buses. :)   
      
    Most of us don't seem to care what they know about us and, of course,   
   there is now no way to recall the information they all sell to one   
   another.   
      
    Once they invented I.S.P.'s it was all over.   
      
                                                  J.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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