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   Message 197,476 of 197,590   
   Paul to R.Wieser   
   Re: Thunderbird and MIDs   
   20 Feb 26 17:00:46   
   
   XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-xp, alt.windows7.general, alt.msdos.batch.nt   
   From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On 2/20/2026 2:18 PM, R.Wieser wrote:   
   > Frank,   
   >   
   >> I don't know if it still works in Outlook Express (Rudy?).   
   >   
   > Yes, it does.  Both when clicking the news:// link inside a post, or when   
   > putting it into my webbrowser (FF 52) (which than handed it off to OE).   
   >   
   >   
   > I also tried to put your posts message-ID   
   > (10na0k5.jo0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net) after the news:// protocol   
   > header, but although OE tried, it told me that it could not find the server   
   > (ID-201911.user.individual.net).   
   >   
   > Regards,   
   > Rudy Wieser   
      
   The most logical conclusion, might be that   
      
        a@b.c      <=== M-ID needs the b.c to resolve to a real email server   
       (email)          Perhaps email does not allow fudging the b.c part ?   
      
        d@e.f      <=== The M-ID on USENET News, all it needs to be, is "unique"   
       (News)           from every other message. The designers consider there is   
                        no requirement for e.f to be real and suited to   
   nslookup(e.f).   
                        But on the minus side, from a context point of view,   
                        if we allow this, we cannot "guess" which USENET   
   account/server   
                        this might have come from.   
      
   Outlook wants to look at exactly one server, for d@e.f and when nsloopup(e.f)   
   fails to work properly, it becomes wobbly. Whereas for a USENET client,   
   they have the option of trying any USENET news account/server to do   
   a lookup of the d@e.f pseudo-identifier. It only looks like an email   
   address, when it isn't exactly an email address (as the domain can be   
   fake or a vanity string).   
      
   Jeff Relf wrote his own USENET news client, and it definitely has a   
   "unique" string for messages like no other. The NNTP spec allows this.   
   You do not have to accept the INN "suggested" M-ID, you can use your   
   own, and that is what Jeff does.   
      
      Paul   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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