XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11   
   From: ithinkiam@gmail.com   
      
   micky  wrote:   
   > In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 22 Feb 2026 16:43:35 -0500, knuttle   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 02/22/2026 3:51 PM, micky wrote:   
   >>> FYI   
   >>>   
   >>> Did you know: That no file manager with a GuI will display files in a   
   >>> directory in the order they are written onto the media?  And that no   
   >>> option in CMD will do this either?   
   >>>   
   >>> (I really don't understand Powershell or its role. Will anything in   
   >>> Powershell do this?)   
   >>>   
   >>> The only thing I know that will do this is Take Command, TCC or its free   
   >>> version TCC/LE.  Hasn't been updated since 2020 or earlier afaict, but   
   >>> there is no need to update it.  It's fantastic.  Has many other great   
   >>> enhancements though my 709-yo memory will need some time to think of   
   >>> them.   
   >>> One simple one is CD....  where the number of dots minus one indicates   
   >>> how many directories up you will position yourself.   
   >>> And dir /o:u will display files in Unsorted order.   
   >>>   
   >>> Why would physical order matter?  I'm sure there are many reasons, but   
   >>> for me, I wanted a flashdrive with music I like, since no radio station   
   >>> in Baltimore** plays it and I'm going abroad and certainly no station   
   >>> there plays 50's and early 60's music.  But using Radiomaximus, and I'm   
   >>> sure other methods, one can play 181.FM Oldies, for free.   And there   
   >>> are amny other genres as well.   
   >>>   
   >>> I did this several years ago but I can't find the flashdrive I made.   
   >>> This time it will be even better. So instead of just recording for a ay   
   >>> and a half, I recorded for 3 days. Got about 1650 files.  Sorted   
   >>> alphabetically and got rid of two groups I don't like, and got rid of   
   >>> the advertisements that they play, not that often but since I can get   
   >>> rid of them, I did so. (they are easy to spot, 1/10th the size of songs,   
   >>> plus they all have the same or similar names, names that are not the   
   >>> names of songs.  There were about 240 out of the 1700)   
   >>>   
   >>> This left 1357.  By sorting alphabetically, one sees that ome songs   
   >>> appea only once, some twice, and many 3 times.   
   >>>   
   >>> Well, they've taken small steps against my plan by putting a little   
   >>> advertising within the song files, but a small amount compared to what I   
   >>> deleted.   
   >>>   
   >>> If you use VLC and some other software, it plays them in alphabetical   
   >>> order, no matter what order they are on the flashdrive.  How about that.   
   >>> But the gizmo I have that plugs into the cigarette lighter and xmit to   
   >>> the radio plays in the order they exist on the drive.  The car I rent   
   >>> will probably have a usb input, and I don't know what order they will   
   >>> play in.  I've also got a tiny mp3 player that connects with a 1/8"   
   >>> audio cable. That plays in the order I want.   
   >>>   
   >>> For some reason, 5 seconds or so of the next song ae in the privious   
   >>> song's file, so if you don't play them in the original order, all the   
   >>> songs start 5 seconds in, and end with 5 seconds unrelated to the song   
   >>> before or the song after.   
   >>>   
   >>> Then I copied all of them to the flash drive it used whatever order was   
   >>> in the File Manager (with a gui). But I couldnt tell for sure what order   
   >>> they were in without TCC/LE and  dir /o:u .   
   >> You can display the date created in the File manager.   
   >   
   > Displaying the date does not show you which file appears first on the   
   > media.   
      
   What does that even mean? I suppose on a spinning magnetic drive it may   
   have had some meaning, but on a flash drive it is meaningless.   
      
   > Some devices play songs in the order they are stored on the   
   > media.   
      
   I find that *very* hard to believe.   
      
   >> Right click on the colunn header bar, and then select the columns you   
   >> want to view.   I normally have columns Name, Date Modified, and Sizs.   
   >> When I saw this your message, I added the column Date Create to the   
   >> column shown in the folder.   You can standardize the column headings in   
   >> all folder.  For images and music there are additional columns that can   
   >> be added to the File Manager Folder with those file types.   
   >   
   > Yes, I've long had Date Create on my list of columns, but clicking on   
   > that gives a sorted view, by date.  My point was that when using a GUI   
   > you cannot look at files on a flashdrive or any media in an unsorted   
   > view and you cannot with DOS or CMD either, but you can with TCC and   
   > TCC/LE.   
      
   If you want your media tracks to sort in a sensible manner make sure to   
   name them such that an ASCII sort preserves order. For example;   
      
   Instead of file1.mp3, file2.mp3, .. , file11.mp3   
      
   Do file001.mp3, file002.mp3, .. , file011.mp3   
      
   Or when using dates, always use year-month-date format: file_2026-02-24.mp3   
      
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