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|    J. P. Gilliver to R.Wieser    |
|    Re: Do ISPs block port 25?    |
|    24 Feb 26 13:35:08    |
      XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird       From: G6JPG@255soft.uk              On 2026/2/24 9:41:11, R.Wieser wrote:       > John,       >        >> My ISP is in the process of outsourcing all its email provision, but       >> AFAIK are not obliging their users to use their chosen provider       >        > Here in Europe such an "you *must* use this, and pay for it whatever they        > ask" forcing would get them into quite a bit of hot water with the Law.              PlusNet have arranged with Greenly that it will be free for the first       two years, and then 15 pounds a year thereafter, which isn't a lot;       however, they've not _obliged_ their users to use Greenly even       initially. (Though I get the impression that if users want to retain       their PN addresses, they _do_ have to; what you say about the law is       interesting. Though I suspect tied-in "addresses" would be excluded. I       moved away from an ISP-tied email address some years ago, after the       Demon/Vodafone debacle.) I get the clear impression that PlusNet would       be delighted to be rid of _all_ email matters (presumably they have come       to an arrangement with Greenly re email addresses and server names for now).       >        >> service who provide something for $30 a month); Also, my hosting provider       >> I'm pretty sure offers email handling, and I doubt my ISP would object if        >> I       >> used that. Then there is gmail of course.       >        > Thanks for confirming what I've been saying to Paul.       >        > A warning though : I just read that gmail is phasing out POP3 (and thus        > likely also SMTP and similar) access to it.              Interesting, and predictable. (I do have a gmail address, though have       never used it [I have to remember to connect to it occasionally to keep       it alive], but have only used webmail to access it.) Sad though.       >        > Regards,       > Rudy Wieser       >        >        And from me.       --        J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf               looking like one who had drunk the cup of life and found       a dead beetle in the bottom. - Wodehouse              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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