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   J. P. Gilliver to R.Wieser   
   Re: Do ISPs block port 25?   
   24 Feb 26 13:35:08   
   
   XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird   
   From: G6JPG@255soft.uk   
      
   On 2026/2/24 9:41:11, R.Wieser wrote:   
   > John,   
   >    
   >> My ISP is in the process of outsourcing all its email provision, but   
   >> AFAIK are not obliging their users to use their chosen provider   
   >    
   > Here in Europe such an "you *must* use this, and pay for it whatever they    
   > ask" forcing would get them into quite a bit of hot water with the Law.   
      
   PlusNet have arranged with Greenly that it will be free for the first   
   two years, and then 15 pounds a year thereafter, which isn't a lot;   
   however, they've not _obliged_ their users to use Greenly even   
   initially. (Though I get the impression that if users want to retain   
   their PN addresses, they _do_ have to; what you say about the law is   
   interesting. Though I suspect tied-in "addresses" would be excluded. I   
   moved away from an ISP-tied email address some years ago, after the   
   Demon/Vodafone debacle.) I get the clear impression that PlusNet would   
   be delighted to be rid of _all_ email matters (presumably they have come   
   to an arrangement with Greenly re email addresses and server names for now).   
   >    
   >> service who provide something for $30 a month); Also, my hosting provider   
   >> I'm pretty sure offers email handling, and I doubt my ISP would object if    
   >> I   
   >> used that. Then there is gmail of course.   
   >    
   > Thanks for confirming what I've been saying to Paul.   
   >    
   > A warning though : I just read that gmail is phasing out POP3 (and thus    
   > likely also SMTP and similar) access to it.   
      
   Interesting, and predictable. (I do have a gmail address, though have   
   never used it [I have to remember to connect to it occasionally to keep   
   it alive], but have only used webmail to access it.) Sad though.   
   >    
   > Regards,   
   > Rudy Wieser   
   >    
   >    
   And from me.   
   --    
   J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf   
       
   looking like one who had drunk the cup of life and found   
   a dead beetle in the bottom. - Wodehouse   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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