XPost: alt.comp.software.thunderbird   
   From: G6JPG@255soft.uk   
      
   On 2026/2/24 16:3:2, Frank Slootweg wrote:   
   > R.Wieser  wrote:   
   > [...]   
   >   
   >> A warning though : I just read that gmail is phasing out POP3 (and thus   
   >> likely also SMTP and similar) access to it.   
   >   
   >   Well, then we'll just have to re-invent GooglePOPs/GPOPs! :-)   
   >   
   >   Explanation: In the old days, free Yahoo! e-mail accounts could not   
   > use POP/SMTP, so a proxy named YahooPOPs! (later YPOPS!) was developed,   
   > which did POP/SMTP on the e-mail client's side and HTTP on the other   
   > side. Of course, like currently with the YouTube downloaders, they had   
   > to chase each and every change which Yahoo! made on the web-side, but it   
   > worked.   
      
   Clever; like stunnel for non-encoding clients.   
      
   Or the free-Turnpike server. Demon sold the Turnpike news/email client   
   (it included a few other things, I think telnet, ping, ...); they also   
   released a free version, but that would only work with them. That worked   
   by having Turnpike interrogate a (hard-coded into it) server at Demon,   
   and if it didn't get the right response, it wouldn't proceed. Someone   
   eventually devised something that mimicked it - initially they actually   
   provided the server (users had to add a line to their hosts file to   
   redirect to it); eventually, someone devised a way of making a local   
   version of that server that could run on the user's own machine.   
   Eventually Demon (well, Vodafone) turned off their server anyway, so   
   even their own customers couldn't use Turnpike if they had only the free   
   version. By then you couldn't buy it even if you wanted it. So those   
   users (as well as those who'd not bought Turnpike but were using it with   
   other ISPs) were grateful for the pseudo-server!   
      
   So man-in-the-middle softwares - even if running locally - are a   
   solution to many problems.   
   >   
   >   Later there were back-roads to get POP/SMTP for free Yahoo! e-mail   
   > accounts, so I switched to those (and still use them for any e-mail that   
   > might arrive in those old accounts).   
   >   
   >   BTW, I don't think it's very likely that Gmail will drop POP et al,   
   > too many people and organizations depend on it.   
      
   Let's hope not.   
   >   
   >   Yes, they might drop POP access or/and non-OAuth2 authentication, but   
   > dropping IMAP/SMTP is very unlikely IMO.   
      
   Those of us who prefer the simplicity of POP would be sad.   
   >   
   >   Anyway, do you have a reference for this?   
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