From: mrbarryedw.20@aussiebroadband.com.au
frg wrote on 8/11/25 8:07 pm:
>
> Michael Lueck wrote:
>> Greetings Barry,
> ...
>
> I have an ubuntu 22.4 LTS vm left which I now and then use for tests.
> Use Rocky Linux 8 vm for building and OpenSuse Leap 1.56 (16 bahhh) as a
> backup server. I updated the vm to the latest level and unpacked the
> official package into the 22.4 opt/seamonkey directory using a root
> account and ran it under my normal user. I was unable to confim the exit
> crash in any way.
>
> Is the crash listed under about:crashes? If yes can you post the crash id.
Currently on :-
U-24-04.3 X11 SeaMonkey 2.53.23 beta 1 pre -20251104212101
Tell the truth, I mostly have the crash reporter pane disabled (all
boxes unchecked), but the last one listed under the heading:
"Submitted Crash Reports"
Report ID Date Submitted
123491 5/11/25, 8:18 pm
Opening an account there says this is an unknown crash report - ergo it
is blank ..
Did I mention that for me, it is an erratic bug!
I just now tried everything I could to reproduce the crash popup, and
needless to say, nothing!
As usual, U-24-04.3 system monitor says everything SeaMonkey is closing
down cleanly with no artifacts other than the popup crash reporter
>
> Exit crash might be a timeout or the system blocking access to files.
> Bad extension or some old data which piled up too. I would try with a
> new profile too for testing.
>
X11 Nothing to report- clean shutdown - no popup crash reporter.
> Over time would be wise to a distribution which still supports the x11
> layer. Not enough devs around to make Wayland support happen in the near
> future. We are not alone with this but not something I like.
>
Wise words indeed! Yes, I'll need to do this. I live inside SM Composer!
Actually, with Gnome effectively dumping X11, and Qt already on Wayland
- Xubuntu is the X11 version of Ubuntu - so it seems we are looking for
an obscure X11 desktop environment as well as a X11 centric distro that
supports my handful of essential apps, though the banks, governments,
etcetera, may mean I have to use a mainstream distro for compatibility.
Surely is a conundrum. Seems I will just have to diversify out of the
single environment option. Might even be safer actually.
Switching to:-
U-24-04.3 Wayland SeaMonkey 2.53.23 beta 1 pre -20251104212101
Even with a few other apps running concurrently, a clean shutdown with
no crash popup and system-monitor says everything SeaMonkey is good- no
residuals.
I'm feeling it may be a system timeout on SM, as my profile is:-
16,260 items, totalling 5.2 GB,
albeit my system is:-
ASUS Pro WS X570-ACE AMD Ryzen™ 9 3900X × 24 32.0-GiB-DDR4 2.5TB NVMe
so the hardware shouldn't bottleneck it.
For me, it is not a problem - it's more of a microscopic niggle.
Always the way. When you want something to happen - it does not.
> I dislike wayland and the way linux systems in general go with obscure
> undocumented stuff, endless changes switching things back and forth,
> dumbing down the ui to mobile style or a bad Windows copycat, not
> careing one bit about api compatibility but that is another story and
> just a personal rant.
>
> FRG
Can't argue with that! You are not exactly an island in those
sentiments. Comprehensive computing seems to make way for
specialisation. Smartphones are commodities that like the gap between
rich and poor, the gap between power computerisation and commodity
computing becomes even wider with time. Proprietorialism and security
also now seem to be identical. Ownership can't value public freedom.
I surely do hope a Linux-distro does optimise for X11, but I guess
progress has to be accommodated too. We just need to find solutions.
Thanks for all you've done for SM and myself as a user, seems entirely
inadequate. We don't say it enough, but you and your fellow devs efforts
are genuinely valued and appreciated by we users. Much appreciated. Barry.
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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