From: daniel47@nomail.afraid.org   
      
   On 1/01/2026 11:43 pm, Nuno Silva wrote:   
   > On 2026-01-01, Daniel70 wrote:   
   >> On 1/01/2026 10:53 pm, Daniel70 wrote:   
   >>> On 1/01/2026 10:27 pm, Nuno Silva wrote:   
   >>>> On 2026-01-01, Daniel70 wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Happy New Year, everybody.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> When I log into the #SeaMonkey IRC Chn, I usually get a   
   >>>>> listing of all those who are connected to that Chn.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Over the last few days, that has not been happening and,   
   >>>>> indeed, today I've noticed that there is, apparently, no-one   
   >>>>> connected.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I'm getting a message .... "[INFO] This channel requires   
   >>>>> that you have registered and identified yourself with the   
   >>>>> network's nickname registration services (e.g. NickServ).   
   >>>>> Please see the documentation of this network's nickname   
   >>>>> registration services that should be found in the MOTD   
   >>>>> (/motd to display it)."   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> .... but, when I read the MOTD, there is nothing there that   
   >>>>> would seem to correct anything.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Am I the only one being effected ... or are others effected   
   >>>>> as well??   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There was a spam attack on Libera.chat a few days ago [1], and   
   >>>> the #SeaMonkey channel was modified so that you need a   
   >>>> "registered nick" to join.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> In networks like Libera, with "services" (which is not always   
   >>>> the case on IRC in general, but is frequent), this is done by   
   >>>> registering with NickServ, and seems to require an e-mail   
   >>>> address (I'm not sure if this was always the case with Libera   
   >>>> or not).   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The MOTD really seems to lack the relevant information, I'll   
   >>>> double-check that. Libera has a guide on this on the web, at   
   >>>> [2].   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Do note that the Libera guide for SASL authentication in   
   >>>> Chatzilla is probably outdated, support is, I think, bundled,   
   >>>> and exposed as a checkbox in Chatzilla preferences, after   
   >>>> which it will prompt you for the password. For me it stores   
   >>>> the password in the SeaMonkey password manager, but, if you   
   >>>> use this, please report whether that does work, as there have   
   >>>> been reports of different behaviour.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> [1] https://ircbot.comm-central.org:8080/seamonkey/20251224   
   >>>> [2] https://libera.chat/guides/registration   
   >>>>   
   >>> Thanks for the detailed response, Nuno.   
   >>>   
   >>> I'll look at your second ref and see how I go.   
   >>   
   >> Hmm!! Well, I tried .... the list of names is still empty (not even   
   >> mine shows) .... and each time I post, I'm told "#SeaMonkey Cannot   
   >> send to nick/channel" .... whatever that means.   
   >   
   > Did you try to join again afterwards?   
      
   See my reply to frg just now ..... I can get onto the channel so things   
   are improving.   
      
   > With +r, you are barred from joining, but ChatZilla retains the view   
   > open (probably good, as otherwise you'd not see the message about   
   > needing to be registered and identified). And even if registered and   
   > identified, that is what you get when you try to message the channel   
   > without having joined (because of a separate mode, +n -- this is a   
   > thing because in IRC you don't have to be in a channel to send a   
   > message to it).   
   >   
   > If joining again (issuing "/JOIN #SeaMonkey" or right click on the   
   > tab and choosing "Rejoin #SeaMonkey") doesn't work, I was going to   
   > say that I don't recall whether the registration command also   
   > authenticates or if you have to issue IDENTIFY separately, or   
   > whether the e-mail validation code is required for this. But frg has   
   > just removed the +r mode from the channel, so right now it should   
   > work again even without identifying to NickServ.   
   >   
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