From: frgrahl@gmx.net   
      
   Daniel70 wrote:   
   > On 1/01/2026 11:43 pm, Nuno Silva wrote:   
   >> On 2026-01-01, Daniel70 wrote:   
   >>> On 1/01/2026 10:53 pm, Daniel70 wrote:   
   >>>> On 1/01/2026 10:27 pm, Nuno Silva wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2026-01-01, Daniel70 wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Happy New Year, everybody.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> When I log into the #SeaMonkey IRC Chn, I usually get a listing of all   
   >>>>>> those who are connected to that Chn.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Over the last few days, that has not been happening and, indeed, today   
   >>>>>> I've noticed that there is, apparently, no-one connected.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I'm getting a message .... "[INFO] This channel requires   
   >>>>>> that you have registered and identified yourself with the network's   
   >>>>>> nickname registration services (e.g. NickServ). Please see the   
   >>>>>> documentation of this network's nickname registration services that   
   >>>>>> should be found in the MOTD   
   >>>>>> (/motd to display it)."   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> .... but, when I read the MOTD, there is nothing there that would seem   
   >>>>>> to correct anything.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Am I the only one being effected ... or are others effected as well??   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> There was a spam attack on Libera.chat a few days ago [1], and the   
   >>>>> #SeaMonkey channel was modified so that you need a "registered nick" to   
   >>>>> join.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> In networks like Libera, with "services" (which is not always the case on   
   >>>>> IRC in general, but is frequent), this is done by registering with   
   >>>>> NickServ, and seems to require an e-mail address (I'm not sure if this   
   >>>>> was always the case with Libera or not).   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The MOTD really seems to lack the relevant information, I'll double-check   
   >>>>> that. Libera has a guide on this on the web, at [2].   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Do note that the Libera guide for SASL authentication in Chatzilla is   
   >>>>> probably outdated, support is, I think, bundled, and exposed as a   
   >>>>> checkbox in Chatzilla preferences, after   
   >>>>> which it will prompt you for the password. For me it stores   
   >>>>> the password in the SeaMonkey password manager, but, if you   
   >>>>> use this, please report whether that does work, as there have   
   >>>>> been reports of different behaviour.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> [1] https://ircbot.comm-central.org:8080/seamonkey/20251224   
   >>>>> [2] https://libera.chat/guides/registration   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> Thanks for the detailed response, Nuno.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I'll look at your second ref and see how I go.   
   >>>   
   >>> Hmm!! Well, I tried .... the list of names is still empty (not even   
   >>> mine shows) .... and each time I post, I'm told "#SeaMonkey Cannot   
   >>> send to nick/channel" .... whatever that means.   
   >>   
   >> Did you try to join again afterwards?   
   >   
   > See my reply to frg just now ..... I can get onto the channel so things   
   > are improving.   
   >   
   >> With +r, you are barred from joining, but ChatZilla retains the view   
   >> open (probably good, as otherwise you'd not see the message about   
   >> needing to be registered and identified). And even if registered and   
   >> identified, that is what you get when you try to message the channel   
   >> without having joined (because of a separate mode, +n -- this is a   
   >> thing because in IRC you don't have to be in a channel to send a   
   >> message to it).   
   >>   
   >> If joining again (issuing "/JOIN #SeaMonkey" or right click on the tab and   
   >> choosing "Rejoin #SeaMonkey") doesn't work, I was going to say that I don't   
   >> recall whether the registration command also authenticates or if you have to   
   >> issue IDENTIFY separately, or   
   >> whether the e-mail validation code is required for this. But frg has   
   >> just removed the +r mode from the channel, so right now it should   
   >> work again even without identifying to NickServ.   
   >>   
      
   Looks like libera is back to normal and sasl no longer needed.   
      
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