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   alexyu to As I had   
   Re: Keyboard shortcut question   
   27 Feb 26 15:44:12   
   
   From: alexyu@postpro.net   
      
   Daniel70 wrote, on 27 Feb 2026 05:41:   
      
   > Alexyu, what I might have omitted to mention is that, WHEN you Delete a   
   > Message from the Inbox it IS NOT actually deleted.   
   >   
   > All the messages in your Inbox are contained in the one File and each   
   > 'e-mail' with-in that File begins with a single byte to indicate if the   
   > (following) message is NEW (i.e. UNREAD), or has been READ but not   
   > deleted or has been DELETED.   
   >   
   > The e-mail is not actually deleted (although it will not be listed in   
   > the 'Inbox' at all but will be listed in the 'TRASH' file but marked for   
   > deletion) at this stage.   
   >   
   > When you 'Empty Trash' and then 'Compact Folders', the message is really   
   > gotten rid of and removed forever! Until this stage, you can reclaim   
   > your lost message.   
      
   * sigh! *   
      
   As I said twice, I was short-sighted, but I'm not ignorant...   
      
   What you described above is for 'file deltion' on a PC in general; but,   
   for emails in SM, it IS similar, but managed by SM, not the OS.   
      
   As I had said in one of the previous messages:   
      
   > when any email message is selected in SM Mail, if you press "DEL",   
   > even by accident, that message is immediately considered 'deleted' --   
   > and to get it back, I close SM, open the corresponding mail folder in   
   > a text processor (like Notebook), find the 'deleted' message, change   
   > its "X-Mozilla-Status & Status2" back, delete the folder's MSF file,   
   > reopen SM, and let it rebuild the MSF file;   
      
   So, yes, it's not physically deleted, but SM has its own mechanism (the   
   "X-Mozilla-Status & Status2" in the SM mailfolder file) for a similar   
   result -- and I always used THAT (there's no 'byte' to indicate anything   
   to the OS yet, as I understand it).   
      
   Yes, the result of changing the "X-Mozilla-Status & Status2" IS to   
   'indicate that it should be considered deleted', and that's how SM   
   treats it from then on, until you compact the folder, whereupon that   
   message IS deleted...   
      
   What I always neglected is that, from the 'delete' action until   
   compaction, that message 'will be listed in the 'TRASH' file', and THAT   
   is an easy and quick way to un-delete it; that's my short-sightness...   
      
   I had that problem for many years, and still did until now, because I'm   
   still on SM 2.49; from this exchange, I now know that SM 2.53 has   
   included that 'Undelete' in the menu, so if/when I start using it, I'll   
   be covered (which is another small bit of good news).   
      
      
   My error was   
      
   --   
   Best,   
      
   s) alexyu   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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