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   From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Thu, 6/12/2025 11:47 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:   
   > On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 00:53:19 -0400, Paul wrote:   
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   >> In the area I live in, 300,000 people receive a B12 shot every month.   
   >> Just, ridiculous. The news article about it was asking whether this was   
   >> "reasonable" or not.   
   >> You know at least a few of them (like me), could be on the pills   
   >> instead. But the doctors just don't have the time to be pissing around   
   >> with this stuff. The topic is handled poorly.   
   >   
   > I have heard that for B12, a daily pill is better than a monthly shot.   
      
   That advice is only to take the load off the medical system.   
      
   Pills are likely to cost more, to you, than a vial every 10 months.   
   It depends on who pays for the administration of the shot, whether   
   the injection method is cheaper. The chemical costs $1. The nurse   
   costs $25.   
      
   When I was receiving shots, a nurse can't give that shot, without   
   doctor approval for each and every one. If the doctor is handling   
   a patient, they are not interrupted by nursey while they work.   
   Between patients, they're giving permission for shots.   
      
   The vial itself (you buy the vial, clinic does not provide),   
   is likely cheaper than the pills. And, the shot is just as   
   effective. The reason for this, is your liver stores B12,   
   and the tau is 30 days. That means 36% of your reserve is used   
   up (drooping in the supply), when your shot comes along to boost   
   it back up. If you waited three months, had no pills or shot and   
   ate potato chips the whole time, now you're in trouble.   
   But from month to month, a 1 ml shot is sufficient to last   
   you for the whole month. Cyanocobalamine.   
      
   The body recycles B12. It removes B12 you would piss out,   
   and sends it back to the liver. This is why the supply   
   lasts so long. There is scavenging. This is a trace chemical.   
   Evolution has provided us with survival mechanisms, for the   
   essential trace chemical. The biochemical process   
   is ridiculous as a design, but it works... sorta.   
   When that process breaks down, that's when the needle comes out.   
      
   The biochemical process, does not process more than 2x to 3x of the   
   RDA. This is why overdoing it, is pointless. If you ate canned   
   clams, now you're pissing out the excess B12, because the   
   process doesn't have the bandwidth for the whole load. Whereas,   
   when you receive a shot into the blood stream, the inefficient   
   "gut transport" thing does not apply. And the liver is very   
   good as filters go. The liver can absorb a whole months   
   worth of chemical, sucking it out of the blood stream after   
   your shot. Neat. That's the difference between blood   
   and gut.   
      
   But we really shouldn't have 300,000 people receiving   
   those shots. That betrays a flawed Medical Society flow chart   
   for treatment. The doctor should interact with you, tip you upright,   
   keep you self sufficient. Turning everyone into a pin cushion   
   when it was not actually needed, is wrong.   
      
   This has happened with other meds. A person will discover, one   
   way or another, that the med they've been consuming, isn't   
   actually needed. And another doctor can then test and verify   
   that their vitals indicate continued consumption is not required.   
   This is one reason, a pharmacist will sometimes review a customer   
   meds, when more than three meds are prescribed by one or more   
   doctors. There is a possibility of over-medication, and the   
   pharmacist may start asking you questions whether you know   
   what these are for, and has anyone during renewal asked the   
   right questions.   
      
   That's how I got off the needle. A female doctor said she wasn't   
   going to allow the nurse to give me my shot. I had to fend   
   for myself, use adhoc techniques. I switched to pills. I   
   ordered the blood test to verify I was "still good" after   
   three months. There was no further interaction with the   
   female doctor, no followup, just "no, I'm not giving you   
   this shot today". I was expected to work this out for myself.   
      
   One of my doctors (an author who writes for the newspaper),   
   asks people why we hate doctors. We don't hate doctors.   
   But, they are an acquired taste. Like a vintage vinegar.   
      
       Paul   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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