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   VanguardLH to jj4public@gmail.com   
   Re: Mozilla finishes 2025 with an almost   
   05 Jan 26 08:42:07   
   
   From: V@nguard.LH   
      
   JJ  wrote:   
      
   > VanguardLH wrote:   
   >   
   >> Are you using uBO's Expert mode to get its grid on what to block?   
   >   
   > Not sure about Expert mode.   
      
   https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock#documentation   
      
   I'm used to calling it Expert mode.  It's now called Advanced mode.  You   
   click on the right side to allow or block.  At the above site, it's the   
   image on the right side which you see after enabled the advanced mode.   
   Unfortunately just where to click isn't illustrated.  As I recall, you   
   could hover the mouse over the right-side columns which would indicate   
   the color of what filter you wanted to update.  I think the result was   
   your modification would add a filter.   
      
   https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dynamic-filtering:-quick-guide   
      
   That says the 1st column shows the resource that might get blocked, or   
   allowed.  At the left end of each row in that column, green (allowed),   
   yellow (some resources blocked from that source), and red (all resources   
   blocked from that domain) is shown to list the resources, and blockage,   
   if any.  The 2nd column is how you would define global filters.  You   
   might want Google Analytics blocked everywhere, but want to block some   
   resources at just the visited web site.   
      
   The advanced panel merely presents the block state for various   
   resources, and modifying them (usually to block) creates filters that   
   get added to uBO.  Much easier than learning all the Adblock Plus syntax   
   to manually define the filters.  This is much like uBO's element filter   
   where you enable it, hover the mouse cursor over various elements in the   
   web doc to decide the scope of a filter, and when you create the block   
   then a rule gets added.   
      
   The advanced panel could be improved, but I suspect the app author won't   
   bother.  It's advanced, so users are supposed to learn and experiment   
   with it.  Also, while there are still Firefox users, the percentage of   
   the web browser market is small.  Plus, in order to support MV3 web   
   browsers, the author came up with a Lite version that doesn't have   
   advanced mode, because Google replace the WebRequest API that allowed   
   dynamic content filtering with the declarativeNetRequest API that   
   restricts the number of rules, and lacks the dynamic abilities for   
   advanced blocking.  Google was losing revenue with all the blocking,   
   such as their analytics crap sites would use to track how their sites   
   were used.   
      
   I don't think uBO Lite even has a log to show you all the resources a   
   web doc accesses, and if some where blocked.  I switched to Adguard   
   Adblocker which does have a log: enable it, clear it, refresh the web   
   doc to re-retrieve, the log populates, turn off the log, and then look   
   at the log to determine for which resources you might want to create new   
   filters aka user rules.  That often helps when I want to block something   
   at a web site, but sometimes the ad content is retrieved by a 1st-party   
   script (which I allow) to get the ad, and I have to dig into the web   
   doc's code to see where is the source of that ad content to manually   
   create a filter (which means I might have to learn a little more about   
   Adblock Plus' syntax, and trial several modifications of a filter until   
   I get it right).  Learning Adblock Plus' filter syntax is like trying to   
   learn a new programming language (that isn't like anything you've used   
   before, so not like learning Javascript if you know C/C++).  Doesn't   
   even resemble regex.  So, sometimes I gave up trying to figure out how   
   to filter out some dynamic (scripted) ad content.  Full uBO's advanced   
   panel facilitate some ease in defining filters, but it could be too   
   overreaching in scope.  Finer granularity required writing and testing   
   manually written filters.  uBO Lite for MV3 web browsers doesn't have   
   advanced mode nor even a log to show the resources, and how any of the   
   pre-defined blacklists or your own filters would affect which were   
   allowed or block.   
      
   For now, Mozilla says they will support both MV2 and MV3 add-ons.  That   
   could change.  I gave up on Firefox, because its script interpreter was   
   slower.  So slow at some sites that I thought the sites were dead or   
   overloaded.  Some sites didn't render properly or completely with   
   Firefox, but did with a Chromium-based web browser.  Firefox was far   
   more configurable than the Chromium web browsers, and why I stuck with   
   it for so long, but eventually I needed a web browser that was faster,   
   and could properly render all web sites.  Web devs often only test with   
   Chromium web browsers (e.g., Chrome, Edge), so they don't know about   
   anomalies when using Firefox.  Those same web devs are unreachable since   
   many companies contract out that service, and the company isn't   
   interested in supporting customer requests to report issues to whomever   
   the company hired to build the web site.  Plus, the company contracts   
   the web dev team, the site is done, and the contract is over until the   
   company decides to update their site, so there may not be a constant   
   relationship between company and web dev service.  The company hasn't a   
   clue how all the web magic works, because they don't have their own web   
   dev team.   
      
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